How Does the Doppler Effect Explain Frequency Changes in Moving Cars?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of the Doppler Effect to a scenario involving a stationary police car emitting sound waves and a moving car that reflects these waves. The problem involves determining the speed of the moving car based on frequency changes observed.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the observed frequency and the motion of the cars, questioning how to correctly apply the Doppler formula. There are attempts to clarify the definitions of variables within the formula and the implications of frequency changes.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints regarding the need to apply the Doppler formula multiple times, suggesting a deeper exploration of the problem. There is acknowledgment of a successful resolution by one participant, although the overall discussion remains open to further clarification and exploration of assumptions.

Contextual Notes

There is a question regarding the definition of variables in the Doppler formula, particularly what frequency the police car will hear. This indicates potential confusion about the setup and assumptions being made in the problem.

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Homework Statement


A stationary police car emits a sound of frequency 1200 Hz that bounces off a car on the highway and returns with a frequency of 1250 Hz. The police car is right next to the highway, so the moving car is traveling directly toward or away from it. (a) How fast was the moving car going? Was it moving toward or away from the police car?

Homework Equations


ƒL = ƒS(v - vL)/(v - vS)

The Attempt at a Solution


The returning frequence is larger so its wave length has to be smaller which tells us that the car is moving towards the police car.

vS = v - vƒSL = 13.76 m/s
The correct answer is 7.02 m/s.
What am I doing wrong?
 
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Hint: You need to apply the Doppler formula twice.

1) What frequency does the moving car "observe"? (That's the frequency it will reflect.)
2) What frequency does the police car observe?
 
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Elias Waranoi said:

Homework Equations

Where fL is what, exactly? Is that the frequency that the police will hear?

Edit: pipped by The Doc.
 
Doc Al said:
Hint: You need to apply the Doppler formula twice.

1) What frequency does the moving car "observe"? (That's the frequency it will reflect.)
2) What frequency does the police car observe?

Thanks! I got it right now.
 

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