How Does the Doppler Effect Relate Detector Speed to Sound Speed?

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The discussion focuses on the application of the Doppler Effect in determining the relationship between the speed of a detector and the speed of sound. The key equation derived from the problem is (f'app - f'rec)/f = 0.500, where f'app and f'rec represent the detected frequencies during approach and recession, respectively. The user attempted to manipulate the equations but encountered confusion regarding the cancellation of terms. A critical observation was made that the expression simplifies to zero, indicating a misunderstanding in the algebraic manipulation.

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Homework Statement


A detector initially moves at a constant velocity directly toward a stationary sound source and then (after passing it) directly from it. The emitted frequency is f. During the approach the detected frequency is f'app and during the recession it is f'rec. If the frequencies are related by (f'app-f'rec)/f=0.500, what is the ratio v(d)/v of the speed of the detector to the speed of sound?


Homework Equations



(f'app-f'rec)/f=0.500

f=frequency emmitted
f'app=f * [v+v(d)]/v
f'rec=f * [v-v(d)]/v

The Attempt at a Solution



[( f * [v+v(d)]/v)-(f * [v+v(d)]/v)]/f=0.500

f * ([v+v(d)]/v-[v+v(d)]/v)/f=0.500

[v+v(d)-v-v(d)]/v=0.500

I come up with 1/v=0.500. I guess that would be undefined but it doesn't seem right. I'm not sure where I went wrong here and I've tried a lot of other weird math techniques to not let v(d) cancel but I can't get it to work out. Any suggestions?
 
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Doomezar said:

Homework Statement


[( f * [v+v(d)]/v)-(f * [v+v(d)]/v)]/f=0.500
Have you missed out a minus sign in the second term there?

Note: v+v(d)-v-v(d) = 0, not 1.
 

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