How Does the Dyson-Maleev Representation Benefit Solid State Physics?

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The discussion centers around the Dyson-Maleev representation in solid state physics, particularly its benefits and limitations compared to other representations like the Holstein-Primakoff transformation. Participants explore the implications of using this representation in the context of Hamiltonians and spin operators.

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  • One participant presents the Dyson-Maleev representation for spin operators and questions its convenience in solid state physics, noting that the operators are not hermitian conjugates of each other.
  • Another participant suggests that the advantage of this transformation may be that the Hamiltonian has a finite number of terms, questioning if this is the only benefit.
  • A third participant compares the Dyson-Maleev representation to the Holstein-Primakoff representation, highlighting that while the latter can lead to an infinite number of terms when expanded, the former has a finite number of terms but is not hermitian.
  • A later reply confirms the non-hermiticity of the Dyson-Maleev representation and reiterates the finite number of terms in the Hamiltonian, while also mentioning the importance of satisfying spin-commutation relations.

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Participants express differing views on the advantages of the Dyson-Maleev representation, with some agreeing on its finite number of terms while others emphasize its non-hermiticity. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall benefits and limitations of this representation.

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There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the hermiticity of the operators and the implications of the finite versus infinite terms in the Hamiltonian. The discussion does not resolve these aspects.

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[tex]\hat{S}^+_i=\sqrt{2S}(\hat{a}_i-\frac{1}{2S}\hat{a}^+_i\hat{a}_i\hat{a}_i)[/tex]

[tex]\hat{S}^-_i=\sqrt{2S}\hat{a}^+_i, \quad<br /> \hat{S}^z_i=S-\hat{a}^+_i\hat{a}_i[/tex]

Why is in solid state physics often convenient to use this representation? It is obvious that

[tex](\hat{S}^-_i)^{\dagger}\neq \hat{S}^+_i[/tex]

And Hamiltonian of Heisenberg model is hermitian!
 
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Maybe this transformation has advantage that the Hamiltonian has finite number of terms? Is that only advantage?
 
This representation is in use for [tex]S \geq \frac{1}{2}[/tex] like Holstein Primakoff representation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holstein–Primakoff_transformation

in which we have square root of some function of operator which has infinitely terms when we expand it in Taylor series!

Dyson Maleev representation has finite number of terms but it isn't hermitian! So I suppose this is only adventage! Am I right?
 
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Hi Petar Mali

This is almost 3 years after the fact, so you may realize this by now. You are right that S+ and S- are not hermitian conjugates of one another. You are also right in realizing that Dyson/Maleev has finite number of terms in the Hamiltonian. The fact is that S+, S-, and Sz satisfy the spin-commutation relations (c.f., Milhaly/Martin's text on problems/solutions in solid state physics). The constraint that one must write down operators that are faithful to the spin-commutation relations is the only limit to your imagination, so to speak. All's far in love, war, and canonical transformations.
 

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