# How does the following simplify?

1. Oct 23, 2013

### Rodger

1. The problem statement

( F(r) $\frac{d}{dr}$ ( $r^{2}$ $\frac{d}{dr}$ ) ) g(r)

2. The attempt at a solution

Does it just melt down to:

( F(r) $r^{2}$ g(r) ) $\frac{d^{2}}{dr^{2}}$

2. Oct 23, 2013

### Staff: Mentor

It pretty much doesn't make sense at all. Except in the context of operators, which I don't think is applicable here, d/dr and d2/dr2 don't stand on their own.

The derivative operator d/dr should be applied to some function of r, such as d/dr(r2), which simplifies to 2r.

3. Oct 23, 2013

### haruspex

To add to what Mark44 said, presumably you mean $F(r) \frac{d}{dr}$ ( $r^{2}$ $\frac{d}{dr}g(r)$ ). You can expand the outer d/dr using the product rule.

4. Oct 24, 2013

### Rodger

sure, I don't trust operators so forgive me but I have to ask if I can presume that the order of working through such an example might then follows something like this...

k(r) = $r^{2}$

H(r) = $\frac{d}{dr}$ ( k(r) g(r) ) ------> using the product rule

=> $\frac{d}{dr}$ ( F(r) H(r) ) ------> using the product rule...

or this:

=> F(r) x { $\frac{d}{dr}$ [ $r^{2}$ x $\frac{dg(r)}{dr}$ ] }, using the product rule for the parts in the [] brackets

5. Oct 24, 2013

### haruspex

I see no way to move the F(r) inside the derivative like that. It certainly is not the product rule.
Yes.