How Does the Inverted Ray Diagram Work with Two Lenses?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the inverted ray diagram involving two biconvex lenses, specifically in the context of a telescope setup. Participants are exploring how the arrangement of lenses affects the orientation of the image produced.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to describe the appearance of the inverted ray diagram and seek clarification on how to draw it. There are questions about the differences in ray tracing when using two lenses compared to one, as well as inquiries about the specific setup and distances involved.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on starting with the ray diagram for the first lens and using the resulting image as the object for the second lens. There is acknowledgment of the need for further clarification regarding the inverted nature of the image.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific distances between the lenses and express uncertainty about how to represent the inverted image in the diagram. There is a reference to a lab manual that may provide additional context, but the focus remains on the specific inverted ray diagram challenge.

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I need some help with the 2 lens inverted ray diagram. Like i need someone to describe to me what it looks like or could show me an example of 1. thxn
 
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Could you explain further, perhaps with a drawing, of what you mean by 2 lens inverted ray diagram?
 
Mindscrape said:
Could you explain further, perhaps with a drawing, of what you mean by 2 lens inverted ray diagram?

uhmm well u have 2 biconvex lens like say 24 cm apart and then if you look through it everything is upside down but i don't know how to draw the ray diagram for it
 
Ah, the standard telescope. How do you think it is any different from any other situation? Instead of one lens to do the ray tracing for, you would encounter another lens. You know about the whole focus/parallel, parallel/focus bit, right?

This lab manual may be of help to you.
http://www-hep.colorado.edu/~stevew/O5-revised.pdf
 
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Mindscrape said:
Ah, the standard telescope. How do you think it is any different from any other situation? Instead of one lens to do the ray tracing for, you would encounter another lens. You know about the whole focus/parallel, parallel/focus bit, right?

This lab manual may be of help to you.
http://www-hep.colorado.edu/~stevew/O5-revised.pdf


oo this helps me quite a bit thnx. but I am still stuck with the inverted question. It states the telescope diagram which i needed to but not inverted diagram
 
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Do the ray diagram for the first lens.
Then use this intermediate image as your object for the second lens.
You need to look at the position of this lens, and work out what the rays do with different distances etc
 
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