How Does the Temperature of Hot Chocolate Change Over Time?

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The problem involves analyzing the cooling process of a cup of hot chocolate, focusing on the temperature variation over time at different heights within the cup. It incorporates concepts from heat transfer and partial differential equations, specifically the heat equation and boundary conditions related to thermal exchange with the environment.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the heat equation based on energy balance principles, expressing concerns about the complexity of the boundary conditions. Some participants question the setup of the heat balance and suggest corrections to the equations presented. Others inquire about the applicability of standard techniques for solving the derived heat equation with the specified boundary conditions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's approach and clarifying the mathematical formulation. There is an exchange of ideas regarding the correctness of the setup and the potential methods for solving the problem, indicating a collaborative effort to refine understanding without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about their assumptions and the derivation process, indicating a need for guidance in navigating the complexities of the problem. There is an acknowledgment of the challenges posed by the boundary conditions in the context of the heat equation.

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Homework Statement


A cup of hot chocolate of radius r and height H is completely full. The density ρ and specific heat C of chocolate are known. The cup is very well insulated so that heat is only exchanged with the outside room from the open top. The chocolate is initially at temperature T0, the outside room is kept at temperature Tr, the temperature of the chocolate at the top and bottom of the cup are called Tt and Tb and they vary with time. Assume the heat flow from the air to the cup is F_t = - K_t \pi r^2 (T_t - T_r). Assume the heat flow inside the cup is \vec F = - k_i \pi r^2 \vec \nabla T. Note that Kt, ki have different units.

How do Tt and Tb depend on time?

2. Where is this problem from?
I thought of this problem while wondering how long the chocolate on my desk would take to cool. It looked easy at first and when I tried to do it I found it harder than expected. I expected it would just be a matter of writing an energy balance, but I soon found myself deriving the heat equation with what looked like fairly nasty boundary conditions (BCs). I haven't been doing physics in a while so your guidance in solving it would help. Also, do tell me if the assumptions in the problem are nonsensical.

3. Relevant equations, attempt at a solution
The following may be irrelevant because if you don't know the heat equation, you won't be able to help me with this, and if you know the heat equation, you probably don't need to see it derived again.

Take a small layer of chocolate between heights h and h + dh. The energy balance will be (energy in) - (energy out) + (delta internal energy) = 0.

(energy in) is - k_i \pi r^2 \frac{\partial T(h, t)}{\partial h}.
(energy out) is - k_i \pi r^2 \frac{\partial T(h + dh, t)}{\partial h} in the interior, - K_t \pi r^2 (T_t - T_r) at the top.
(delta internal energy) is \rho C \pi r^2 dh \frac{\partial T}{\partial t}.

Put the three together and you'll get the heat equation in the interior, a weirder equation at the top. We could just look at this as the heat equation with a messy BC the top. The easiest way to frame this BC for me is to say that the total internal energy changes just because of the exchange at the top: \frac{\partial}{\partial t} \int_0^H{T(h, t) C \rho \pi r^2 dh} = - K_t \pi r^2 (T(H, t) - T_r). The other BC is T(h, 0) = T_0 for any h.
 
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This is not set up quite correctly. The heat balance on the section between ##h## and ##h+\Delta h## should be:

- k_i \pi r^2\left( \frac{\partial T}{\partial h}\right)_h-\left[- k_i \pi r^2 \left(\frac{\partial T}{\partial h}\right)_{h+\Delta h}\right]=\rho C \pi r^2 \Delta h \frac{\partial T}{\partial t}
If we divide by ##\Delta h## and take the limit as ##\Delta h## approaches zero, we obtain the transient heat conduction equation:
$$\rho C\frac{\partial T}{\partial t}=k_i\frac{\partial^2T}{\partial h^2}$$

The boundary condition at the top, ##h=H## is: - k_i \pi r^2 \left(\frac{\partial T}{\partial h}\right)_{h=H}=K_t \pi r^2 (T - T_r)ork_i \left(\frac{\partial T}{\partial h}\right)_{h=H}=-K_t (T - T_r)
 
Thank you. I thought about it for a while and I agree.

I haven't been solving PDEs for a long time. Could the 1 dimensional heat equation with this type of BC be solved by standard techniques?
 
Pigkappa said:
Thank you. I thought about it for a while and I agree.

I haven't been solving PDEs for a long time. Could the 1 dimensional heat equation with this type of BC be solved by standard techniques?
No problem.
 

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