How does this derivative work? And why the speed of light remains?

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This discussion centers on the derivation of relativistic momentum, mass, and energy, specifically addressing the kinetic energy of particles moving at high velocities. The momentum of a particle is defined by the equation \( p = \frac{mv}{\sqrt{1 - (v^2/c^2)}} \) and the net force is expressed as \( F_{net} = \frac{dp}{dt} \). The kinetic energy is derived through integration, resulting in the equation \( K = mc^2 \left( \frac{1}{\sqrt{1 - (v_f^2/c^2)}} - 1 \right) \). The discussion clarifies the disappearance of mass \( m \) during variable changes and confirms that the speed of light \( c \) remains a constant invariant in these equations.

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There is a step I don't understand.
Relativistic Momentum, Mass, and Energy

Momentum and mass

(...), the classic equations for conserving momentum and energy are not adequate for the analysis of high-speed collisions. (...)

The momentum of a particle moving with velocity ##v## is given by

$$p=\cfrac{mv}{\sqrt{1-(v^2/c^2)}}\qquad{R-10}$$

ENERGY

In relativistic mechanics, as in classic mechanics, the net force on a particle is equal to the time rate of change of the momentum of the particle. Considering one-dimensional motion only, we have

$$F_{net}=\cfrac{dp}{dt}\qquad{R-11}$$

We wish to find an expression for the kinetic energy. To do this, we multiply both sides of equation ##R-11## by the displacement ##dl##. This gives

$$F_{net}\,dl=\cfrac{dp}{dt}\,dl\qquad{R-12}$$

where we identify the term on the left as the work and the term on the right as the change in kinetic energy. Substituting ##v\,dt## for ##dl## in the term on the right we obtain

$$dK=\cfrac{dp}{dt}\,v\,dt=v\,dp$$

Integrating both sides gives

$$K=\displaystyle\int_0^{P_f}v\,dp\qquad{R.13}$$

To evaluate this integral, we first change the integration variable from ##p## to ##v##. Using Equation ##R-10## and the quotient rule, we have

$$dp=d\Bigg (\cfrac{v}{\sqrt{1-(v^2/c^2)}}\Bigg )$$

Why in the step above ##m## disappears?

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##dp=m\cdot{dv}=d\Bigg (\cfrac{m\cdot{v}}{\sqrt{1-(v^2/c^2)}}\Bigg )##, so they cancel.:oldconfused:

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##\cfrac{[1-(v^2/c^2)]^{1/2}\,dv-v\frac{1}{2}[1-(v^2/c^2)]^{-\frac{1}{2}}\bigg (-\cfrac{2vdv}{c^2}\bigg )}{1-(v^2/c^2)^{3/2}}=\cfrac{dv}{[1-(v^2/c^2)]^{3/2}}##

Substituting for ##dp## in Equation ##R-13## gives

$$K=\displaystyle\int_0^{P_f}vdp=m\displaystyle\int_0^{v_f}\cfrac{vdv}{[1-(v^2/c^2)]^{3/2}}=mc^2\Bigg (\cfrac{1}{\sqrt{1-(v_f^2/c^2)}}-1\Bigg )$$

So

$$K=\cfrac{mc^2}{\sqrt{1-(v^2/c^2)}}-mc^2\qquad{R-14}$$

(In this expression, because the only speed is ##v_f##, the subscript ##f## is not needed)

Defining ##mc^2/\sqrt{1-(v^2/c^2)}## as the total relativistic energy ##E##, Equation ##R-14## can be written

$$E=K+mc^2=\cfrac{mc^2}{\sqrt{1-(v^2/c^2)}}\qquad{R-15}$$

where ##mc^2##, called the rest energy ##E_0##, is energy the particle has when it is at rest.

By multiplying both sides of Equation ##R-10## by ##c## and then dividing the resulting equation by Equation ##R-15##, we obtain

$$\cfrac{v}{c}=\cfrac{pc}{E}\qquad{R-16}$$

which can be useful when trying to solve for the speed ##v##. Eliminating ##v## from Equations ##R-10## and ##R-16##, and solving for ##E^2##, gives

$$E^2=p^2c^2+m^2c^4$$
 
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Why in the change of variable from ##p## to ##v## vanishes ##m##. And which is the behavior of ##c##: is this last an invariant of the derivative?. These are my doubts.
 
mcastillo356 said:
Substituting for ##dp## in Equation ##R-13## gives

$$K=\displaystyle\int_0^{P_f}vdp=m\displaystyle\int_0^{v_f}\cfrac{vdv}{[1-(v^2/c^2)]^{3/2}}=mc^2\Bigg (\cfrac{1}{\sqrt{1-(v_f^2/c^2)}}-1\Bigg )$$
But the mass does not dissapear, you have it right there in your expression for K.
c is the speed of light, it is a constant.
 
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Let me think it over again. Your reasoning is perfect. I must be wrong somewhere, but still the change of variable in ##R-10## keeps me wondering.
 
mcastillo356 said:
$$p=\cfrac{mv}{\sqrt{1-(v^2/c^2)}}\qquad{R-10}$$
If you take the derivative of that, m just "gets out" because it is constant:

$$dp =m \, \, d \left(\cfrac{v}{\sqrt{1-(v^2/c^2)}}\right) = m \, \, {dv \over [1-(v^2/c^2)]^{3/2}}$$

That is the change of variables you do in your equation R-13.
 
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Note that you can avoid the differentiation, by expressing ##v## as a function of ##p##:
$$p = \gamma mv \implies v = \frac p {\sqrt{m^2 + \frac {p^2}{c^2}}}$$integrating gives:
$$K = c^2\sqrt{m^2 + \frac{p^2}{c^2}} - mc^2$$$$= \frac{pc^2}{v} -mc^2$$$$ = \gamma mc^2 - mc^2$$
 
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Understood inmediatly. Thanks Forum.
 

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