How does torque relate to changes in angular momentum?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between torque and changes in angular momentum, specifically in the context of a problem where an object's angular momentum changes by 20 kg*m²/s over 4 seconds. Participants are exploring how to calculate the torque acting on the object.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to relate changes in angular momentum to torque and angular acceleration. They discuss relevant equations, such as L = I*w and T = I*angular acceleration, while questioning how to apply these concepts effectively.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between angular momentum, torque, and angular acceleration. Some participants have provided observations and equations, but confusion remains regarding the application of these concepts and the calculation of specific values.

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Participants express uncertainty about how to proceed with the calculations, particularly in determining the change in angular velocity (Δω) and its implications for the torque calculation. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify these concepts without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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I have no clue as to how to solve this. Any hints/suggestions will be helpful.

Problem: An object's angular momentum changes by 20kg*m^2/s in 4 seconds. What magnitude of torque acted on the object?
 
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Do you know of any expressions which relate a change in momentum to a torque? Or perhaps a torque to an angular acceleration?
 
Hootenanny said:
Do you know of any expressions which relate a change in momentum to a torque? Or perhaps a torque to an angular acceleration?

Maybe I could use L = I*w and T = I*angular acceleration? But I don't know what to do after that.
 
It may be useful to note that for a constant acceleration;

[tex]\alpha = \frac{\Delta\omega}{\Delta t}[/tex]
 
Hootenanny said:
It may be useful to note that for a constant acceleration;

[tex]\alpha = \frac{\Delta\omega}{\Delta t}[/tex]

Sorry, I'm really confused about this.

By your equation, angular acceleration should be 5kg*m^2. Not sure how and where to plug it into get the answer.
 
fro said:
Sorry, I'm really confused about this.

By your equation, angular acceleration should be 5kg*m^2. Not sure how and where to plug it into get the answer.
Another useful observation; from your equation (I is constant);

[tex]\Delta L = I \Delta\omega \Leftrightarrow I = \frac{\Delta L}{\Delta \omega}[/tex]
 
Hootenanny said:
Another useful observation; from your equation (I is constant);

[tex]\Delta L = I \Delta\omega \Leftrightarrow I = \frac{\Delta L}{\Delta \omega}[/tex]

[tex]\Delta L = 20{kg} \cdot{m^2}[/tex]
[tex]\alpha = \frac{20kg\cdotm^2}{4s} = {5kg} \cdot {m^2}[/tex]
[tex]\tau = \frac{\Delta L}{\Delta \omega} \times \alpha[/tex]
[tex]\tau = \frac{20kg\cdot m^2}{\Delta \omega} \times {5kg} \cdot {m^2}[/tex]

So, how would I find [tex]\Delta \omega[/tex]?
 
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From my previous posts;

Hootenanny said:
[tex]\alpha = \frac{\Delta\omega}{\Delta t}\;\;\;\;\;\; (1)[/tex]

Hootenanny said:
[tex]\Delta L = I \Delta\omega \Leftrightarrow I = \frac{\Delta L}{\Delta \omega}\;\;\;\;\;\; (2)[/tex]

Using those to facts and the formula;

[tex]\tau = I\alpha \stackrel{(1)\;\&\;(2)}{\Rightarrow} \tau = \frac{\Delta L}{\Delta \not{\omega}} \cdot \frac{\Delta\not{\omega}}{\Delta t}[/tex]

[tex]\therefore \boxed{\tau = \frac{\Delta I}{\Delta t}}[/tex]

This is a good formula to remember :wink:
 

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