How Does Wall Impact Affect Momentum and Force Calculation?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving momentum and force calculations related to a sphere striking a wall. The problem specifies the magnitudes of momentum before and after impact and asks for the average force exerted by the wall on the sphere.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are debating the correct interpretation of momentum as a vector quantity and whether the provided magnitudes can imply direction. There is a disagreement on which formula for average force is appropriate based on the understanding of momentum directionality.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring the implications of the problem's wording and the accompanying diagram. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of momentum as a vector, but no consensus has been reached on the correct answer.

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Participants note that the problem states the momentum values are magnitudes, which raises questions about how direction is conveyed in the context of the problem. The presence of a diagram is mentioned, but its details are not fully shared in the discussion.

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Hello,

This is an IB question:

Homework Statement



A sphere of mass m strikes a vertical wall at right angles and bounces off it.

The magnitude of the momentum of the sphere just before impact is pB and just after impact is pA. The sphere is in contact with the wall for time t. The magnitude of the average force exerted by the wall on the sphere is:

A. (pB - pA)/t
B. (pB + pA)/t


Homework Equations



F = Δρ/t


The Attempt at a Solution



My friend and I have a disagreement about which of the two answers is correct and why. I believe that the answer should be A, as momentum is a vector. My friend thinks it should be B as he says there is no direction given for the momentum. My thinking is that momentum is a vector and the direction actually is given in the question anyway. Can anyone explain which one is the correct answer and why? Any answers would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
 
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The problem explicitly said that both values given are the magnitudes.

Now that you know the directions, can you restore the vectorial values of the momenta?
 
The question actually has a diagram which I couldn't include. On the diagram, pB has a direction towards the wall and pA has a direction away from the wall. This suggests to me that the direction is given. Am I missing something?
 
pB and pA are said to magnitudes; they cannot have directions.

Direction is a property of a vector. In #2, I asked you whether with the information you are given you can restore the vectors.
 
j_namtirach said:
The question actually has a diagram which I couldn't include. On the diagram, pB has a direction towards the wall and pA has a direction away from the wall. This suggests to me that the direction is given. Am I missing something?
The momentum is a vector and so has direction. The diagram is telling you the magnitude (pA) and the direction (the arrow) separately. It does not turn 'pA' into a vector.
 

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