How Does Water Pressure Change with Depth?

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The discussion centers on calculating the volume of air in a submerged bottle and the buoyant force acting on it as a function of depth. The pressure of water increases with depth, affecting the volume of air according to the ideal gas law. The user is advised to treat the air as an ideal gas and to focus on its volume rather than the mass of the bottle's components. The buoyant force is linked to the volume of the object, in accordance with Archimedes' principle. The calculations provided suggest a correct approach to determining the air volume based on pressure changes.
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Hi,
I am lost with this problem.

A bottle containig air is closed with a watertight yet smoothly moving piston. The bottle with its air has a total mass of 0.30kg. At the surface of a body of water whose temperature is a uniform 285 K throughout, the volume of air contained in the bottle is 1.5L.
Recall that the pressure of water increases with depth below the surface, D, as p=po+ρ *g*D, where po is the surface pressure and ρ=1.0 kg/L.
The bottle is submerged.
a- What is the volume of the air in the bottle as a function of depth?
b- Calculate the buoyant force on the bottle as a function of depth?


There are other questions but I need to understand these ones first.
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brad sue said:
a- What is the volume of the air in the bottle as a function of depth?
Treat the air as an ideal gas. Start by figuring out the volume of air as function of pressure.
b- Calculate the buoyant force on the bottle as a function of depth?
How does the buoyant force on an object depend on the object's volume? (What is Archimedes' principle?)
 
This starting situation is at the surface of Earth,
with Pressure = 1 atm = 101,000 N/m^2 .
You'll have to find out how much of this 0.3 kg is air,
and how much of it is glass (the glass does not compress).
 
lightgrav said:
You'll have to find out how much of this 0.3 kg is air,
and how much of it is glass
I wouldn't bother trying to do that: It will be easier to just treat the air in terms of its volume (which is given at the surface), and assume that the volume of the bottle itself can be neglected.
 
Doc Al said:
Treat the air as an ideal gas. Start by figuring out the volume of air as function of pressure.
How does the buoyant force on an object depend on the object's volume? (What is Archimedes' principle?)
OK, If I use :
PV=nRT and Po*Vo=nRT.
then I take the ratio PV/Po*Vo which is 1
I found:
V=Vo*Po/P
Am I right?
 
Looks good to me. :smile:
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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