How Far Can a Bird Watcher Hear a Song Bird's Sound?

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The problem involves determining the maximum distance a bird watcher can be from a song bird while still being able to hear its sound, given specific sound intensity levels and the speed of sound. The context is related to sound intensity and its relationship with distance.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relevance of decibels in the context of sound intensity and explore the inverse-square relationship between sound intensity and distance. There is also an attempt to set up an equation to relate initial and final intensities with distances.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes attempts to derive a formula based on sound intensity ratios and distances. Some participants provide guidance on the mathematical relationships involved, while others express uncertainty about the relevance of certain concepts.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the assumption of no reflections or absorption of sound, which may affect the accuracy of the distance calculation. There is also mention of specific intensity thresholds for hearing.

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Homework Statement



A bird watcher is hoping to add a particular song bird to the list of species she has seen. If a person, only 2.11 m from the bird, hears the sound with an intensity of 2.5 x 10^-6 W/m2, how far could the bird watcher be from the bird and still hear it? Assume no reflections or absorption of the bird's sound and that the faintest sound that can be heard has an intensity of 10^-12 W/m2.

Homework Equations



Speed of sound: 343 m/s

The Attempt at a Solution



Ok so I've determined that 2.5 x 10^-6 W/m^2 is 63.979 dB

and...

10^-12 W/m^2 is 10 dB

Now the problem is, I don't know if dB is even relevant to solving this equation, and what is worse: I don't even know what kind of equation to use in order to approach this problem :(
 
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dBs are not relevant here, and anyway 10^-12 W/m^2 is zero dB.

What you do need to know is that sound intensity has an inverse-square proportionality with distance.

If I move twice as far away, intensity will be the (inverse-square of 2) times the initial intensity (or 1/4 x). In other words, the ratio of initial intensity over final intensity will be equal to the ratio of final distance squared over initial distance squared.
 
Ok so Ii/If = (xf^2)/(xi^2)

so

(2.5x10^-6)/(10^-12) = (xf^2)/(2.11 m^2)

2,500,000 = (xf^2)/(2.11 m^2)

11,130,250 = xf^2

x = SRTQ(11,130,250)

x = 3336 m

x = 3.336 km

I think that looks about right, thank you very much!
 
Yes, that's the right answer.
 

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