How far from the mirror should the light source be positioned?

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a projector that uses a point light source and a concave spherical mirror. Participants are trying to determine the appropriate distance from the mirror to position the light source, considering the geometry and optics involved.

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  • Participants are exploring the relationship between the focal length, object distance, and image distance using the mirror equation. There are questions about the definitions of variables and how to relate the diameters of the mirror and the beam of light. Some participants suggest using geometric reasoning instead of solely relying on the mirror equation.

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There is ongoing exploration of the problem with various interpretations of the variables involved. Some participants are questioning the appropriateness of the mirror equation for this scenario and are considering alternative approaches, including geometric methods. A few hints have been offered to guide the discussion, but no consensus has been reached.

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Participants are grappling with the definitions of the variables and their relationships, particularly regarding the diameters of the mirror and the beam of light. There is also mention of the need for clearer diagrams to aid understanding.

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Homework Statement
A projector is built using a point light source and a concave spherical mirror. The rays reflected in the mirror hit a screen that is at a distance L from the mirror. The beam of light falling on the bulkhead has a diameter d. The mirror diameter is worth D and its focal length, f. How far from the mirror should the light source be positioned?
Relevant Equations
1/f = 1/p + 1/p'
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C= mirror center
O = vertex

I don't know if the design is right, if someone can show me the correct one. I also don't know how to proceed in geometry

Solution: Lf / ( L - f( 1 + d/D))
 
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A13235378 said:
Homework Statement:: A projector is built using a point light source and a concave spherical mirror. The rays reflected in the mirror hit a screen that is at a distance L from the mirror. The beam of light falling on the bulkhead has a diameter d. The mirror diameter is worth D and its focal length, f. How far from the mirror should the light source be positioned?
Relevant Equations:: 1/f = 1/p + 1/p'

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C= mirror center
O = vertex

I don't know if the design is right, if someone can show me the correct one. I also don't know how to proceed in geometry

Solution: Lf / ( L - f( 1 + d/D))
Is the solution you present yours or someone else's? You have a relevant equation which is the right one to use. What are f, p and p' in terms of the given quantities L and D? Which of the three is the unknown? Just substitute in the equation the known quantities and solve for the unknown.
 
kuruman said:
Is the solution you present yours or someone else's? You have a relevant equation which is the right one to use. What are f, p and p' in terms of the given quantities L and D? Which of the three is the unknown? Just substitute in the equation the known quantities and solve for the unknown.

This solution is from my book, I used the Gaussian equation, but I was unable to relate D and d. I used p= x (what I want to find) and p'= L . Where I put D and d
 
Actually the mirror equation that you have is for the locating the image of the object. You have a point source which should produce a point image at point p' from the mirror, not a circle of diameter ##d##. So the idea is to abandon the mirror equation and use geometry to get the answer. A better diagram should be very helpful. I need to think about this some more and draw my own diagram.
 
A13235378 said:
I don't know if the design is right, if someone can show me the correct one. I also don't know how to proceed in

I think the diameter D of the mirror is as shown below:
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My hint would be to extend rays 1 and 2 back behind the mirror. What is the significance of the point of intersection of the these lines?
 
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Arrgh! I interpreted D to be the diameter as in D = 2R = 4f. It makes much more sense now.
 
TSny said:
I think the diameter D of the mirror is as shown below:
View attachment 267595

My hint would be to extend rays 1 and 2 back behind the mirror. What is the significance of the point of intersection of the these lines?
It worked , ty
 
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