How Fast Must a Proton Travel to Cross an Electric Field?

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The problem involves calculating the necessary launch speed for a proton to cross an electric field between two charged disks. The disks are 4.0 cm in diameter, 2.0 mm apart, and charged to ±12 Nc. The electric field strength has been determined to be 1.1 * 10^6 N/C.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss using kinematics and energy approaches to determine the proton's required speed. Questions about the proton's acceleration and the potential difference between the plates are raised.

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Some participants have provided hints regarding the use of force and acceleration to derive the necessary equations. There is ongoing exploration of kinematic equations and energy conservation principles, with no explicit consensus on the final approach yet.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is a noted uncertainty about the variables involved in the energy equations.

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Homework Statement



Two 4.0 cm diameter disks face each other, 2.0 mm apart. They are charged to +-12 Nc.

Part A
What is the electric field strength between the disks?
E = 1.1 * 10^6 N/C

Part B
A proton is shot from the negative disk toward the positive disk. What launch speed must the proton have to just barely reach the positive disk?

Homework Equations



E=(Q/(epsilon zero * A)
v=x/t

The Attempt at a Solution



I was able to figure out part A. I just need help with part B.
V = ?
x = 2mm
t = ?

Doesn't seem like this part should be difficult, so I must be missing something simple...

Thanks in advance for any help.
 
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Two ways to attack this:

(1) Using kinematics. Hint: What's the proton's acceleration?

(2) Using energy. Hint: What's the potential difference between the plates?
 
So...this is what I have so far.

F = qE

F = (12*10^-9)(1.1*10^6)
F = (.0132N)

F = ma

mass of proton = 1.67*10^-27

.0132 = (1.67*10^-27) (a)
7.9*10^24
 
Foxhound101 said:
So...this is what I have so far.

F = qE

F = (12*10^-9)(1.1*10^6)
F = (.0132N)
Since you need the force on the proton, use the charge of a proton. (Not the total charge on the plate!)
 
F=(1.6*10^-19)(1.1*10^6)
F = 1.76*10^-13

F=ma

1.76*10^-13 = (1.67*10^-27)(a)
1.05*10^14 = a
 
Once you've found the acceleration, it's time for kinematics. You'll need a kinematic equation relating speed and distance.
 
v = x/t
f = m/a

Those aren't it...hm...

Kinetic energy = .5(mass)(velocity)^2

so...(if I remember correctly) total energy = Kinetic energy + potential energy

potential energy = (mgh)

Sadly, if this is the correct approach I do not remember what variables are on the total energy side.

*edit*
O yeah...I forgot I was looking for an equation relating speed and distance. I am having trouble finding one.
 
Hm...perhaps this equation
v^2 = vo^2 + 2a(X - Xo)

*edit*
Yup...that would be the correct equation.

Thanks for the help Doc Al.
 

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