How Fast Were the Spacecrafts Traveling Before Separation?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the original speed of two spacecraft before separation, given their masses and velocities after being thrust apart. Spacecraft 1 has a mass of 1.9 x 104 kg and a velocity of 3.5 x 103 km/h at an angle of 5.1 degrees, while Spacecraft 2 has a mass of 1.7 x 104 kg and a velocity of 3.4 x 103 km/h at an angle of 5.9 degrees. The initial momentum calculations reveal that the original speed of the two spacecraft when linked was approximately 944 m/s or 3.44 x 103 km/h, highlighting the importance of using sufficient significant figures in calculations.

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Two spacecraft from different nations have linked in space and are coasting with their engines off, heading directly toward Mars. The spacecraft s are thrust apart by large springs. Spacecraft 1, with a mass of 1.9 x 10^4 kg, then has a velocity of 3.5 x 10^3 km/h at 5.1 degrees to its original direction. Spacecraft 2, whose mass is 1.7 x 10^4 kg, has a velocity of 3.4 x 10^3 km/h at 5.9 degrees to its original direction. Determine the original speed of the two craft when they were linked together.

m1 = 1.9 x 10^4 kg
v1 = 972 m/s

m2 = 1.7 x 10^4 kg
v2 = 944 m/s

2. The attempt at a solution

Pf1 = (1.9 x 10^4 kg)(972 m/s) = 1.8 x 10^7 Ns
Pf2 = (1.7 x 10^4 kg)(944 m/s) = 1.6 x 10^7 Ns

The initial momentum will be the parallel components of the final momentum, so

Pti = (1.8 x 10^7 Ns)(cos5.1) + (1.6 x 10^7 Ns)(cos5.9) = 3.4 x 10^7 Ns
v = (3.4 x 10^7 Ns)/(3.6 x 10^4 kg) = 944 m/s

I'm not sure of it at all, help appreciated.
 
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Enaqbz said:
m1 = 1.9 x 10^4 kg
v1 = 972 m/s

m2 = 1.7 x 10^4 kg
v2 = 944 m/s
There is no need to convert to m/s. You have to use more significant figures than 2. This is because the angles are small and the difference between the actual speed and the component in the original direction is lost if you stick to 2 significant figures. The problem is poorly set, in that respect.

Pf1 = (1.9 x 10^4 kg)(972 m/s) = 1.8 x 10^7 Ns
Pf2 = (1.7 x 10^4 kg)(944 m/s) = 1.6 x 10^7 Ns
Pf1 = (1.9 x 10^4 kg)(3.5 x 10^3 km/hr) = 6.65 x 10^7 kg km/hr
Pf2 = (1.7 x 10^4 kg)(3.4 x 10^3 km/hr) = 5.78 x 10^7 kg km/hr

The initial momentum will be the parallel components of the final momentum, so

Pti = (1.8 x 10^7 Ns)(cos5.1) + (1.6 x 10^7 Ns)(cos5.9) = 3.4 x 10^7 Ns
v = (3.4 x 10^7 Ns)/(3.6 x 10^4 kg) = 944 m/s
Pti = (6.65 x 10^7)(cos5.1) + (5.78 x 10^7)(cos5.9) = 12.4 x 10^7 kg km/hr
v = (12.4 x 10^7 kg km/hr)/(3.6 x 10^4 kg) = 3.44 x 10^4 km/hr

AM
 
Andrew Mason said:
Pti = (6.65 x 10^7)(cos5.1) + (5.78 x 10^7)(cos5.9) = 12.4 x 10^7 kg km/hr
v = (12.4 x 10^7 kg km/hr)/(3.6 x 10^4 kg) = 3.44 x 10^4 km/hr
AM

Your velocity seems to be one x10 too big.

v = (12.4 x 10^7 kg km/hr)/(3.6 x 10^4 kg) = 3.44 x 10^3 km/hr

Noted for reference.
 
I note that the sum of the momenta in the y-direction is not zero if you interpret the given data in a straightforward way. This has implications for the initial speed, for the initial direction of motion, and for the angles given. Again, the problem seems poorly posed.
 

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