How Fast Will the Skier Be After Crossing the Snow Patch?

  • Thread starter Thread starter Fera09
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Kinematics
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a skier descending a slope and then crossing a patch of soft snow. The problem requires calculating the skier's speed after crossing the snow patch, taking into account the work done by friction and air resistance.

Discussion Character

  • Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the work-energy principle, incorporating work done by friction and air resistance into their calculations. They express uncertainty about the correctness of their approach, particularly regarding the signs and values used in their equations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with one member questioning whether a potential error was made in squaring a value in the calculations. There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet, but the discussion is focused on clarifying the setup and equations involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can share or the methods they can use. The original poster has already solved the first part of the problem, which may influence their approach to the second part.

Fera09
Messages
5
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



Part A. A 64.0-kg skier starts from rest at the top of a ski slope of height 70.0 m.
If frictional forces do −1.00×104 J of work on her as she descends, how fast is she going at the bottom of the slope?
I already got the right answer for this one.. I have problems in this second part.

Part B. Now moving horizontally, the skier crosses a patch of soft snow, where the coefficient of friction is 0.19. If the patch is of width 69.0 m and the average force of air resistance on the skier is 140 N, how fast is she going after crossing the patch?

Homework Equations



Vinitial= 32.5 (got it from part A)
Vfinal= ?
Distance = 69.0 m
Fnormal= mg = 627.84N
coefficient of friction = 0.19
m= 64.0 kg

Ffriction= Fnormal * coefficient of friction

Wfriction= -Ffriction*Distance
Wairresistance= -Fairresistance*Distance (is this right?)
Change in kinetic energy= (1/2)mvfinal2-(1/2)mvinitial2

The Attempt at a Solution



So I got the equation..
Wfriction+Wairresistance=(1/2)mvfinal2-(1/2)mviinitial2

and i plugged in..

-8222.59 + -9660 = (1/2)(64)vfinal2-(1/2)(64)(32.5)


I know I'm doing something wrong somewhere because I can't take the square root of a negative number, but i don't know where.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
just noticed i put this in the wrong section, sorry!
 
Fera09 said:
just noticed i put this in the wrong section, sorry!

No, I moved it here from Advanced Physics. This belongs here in Intro Physics. Check your PMs.
 
Hi Fera09,

Fera09 said:

Homework Statement



Part A. A 64.0-kg skier starts from rest at the top of a ski slope of height 70.0 m.
If frictional forces do −1.00×104 J of work on her as she descends, how fast is she going at the bottom of the slope?
I already got the right answer for this one.. I have problems in this second part.

Part B. Now moving horizontally, the skier crosses a patch of soft snow, where the coefficient of friction is 0.19. If the patch is of width 69.0 m and the average force of air resistance on the skier is 140 N, how fast is she going after crossing the patch?

Homework Equations



Vinitial= 32.5 (got it from part A)
Vfinal= ?
Distance = 69.0 m
Fnormal= mg = 627.84N
coefficient of friction = 0.19
m= 64.0 kg

Ffriction= Fnormal * coefficient of friction

Wfriction= -Ffriction*Distance
Wairresistance= -Fairresistance*Distance (is this right?)
Change in kinetic energy= (1/2)mvfinal2-(1/2)mvinitial2

The Attempt at a Solution



So I got the equation..
Wfriction+Wairresistance=(1/2)mvfinal2-(1/2)mviinitial2

and i plugged in..

-8222.59 + -9660 = (1/2)(64)vfinal2-(1/2)(64)(32.5)


I know I'm doing something wrong somewhere because I can't take the square root of a negative number, but i don't know where.


In your last line, did you forget to square the 32.5 (or is that just a typing error)?
 

Similar threads

Replies
2
Views
4K
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
4K
Replies
10
Views
5K
  • · Replies 23 ·
Replies
23
Views
9K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
5K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
17K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
10K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K