How is a flat coil polarized in comparison to a linear coil?

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The discussion revolves around the polarization of flat coils in comparison to linear coils, focusing on the magnetic properties and behavior of these coil types. Participants explore theoretical aspects, practical observations, and challenges related to the polarization and magnetic field characteristics of flat coils.

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  • One participant questions whether a flat coil is polarized from the inside to the outside, suggesting that the inside could be one pole and the outside another.
  • Another participant proposes that each segment of the coil behaves like a solenoid, contributing to a net circulating magnetic field, akin to a short, axially magnetized magnet.
  • A participant acknowledges a mistake regarding the source of a magnetic field calculator, indicating a potential confusion in the discussion.
  • One participant shares their practical experience with a crude flat voice coil, noting that it attracted or repelled a magnet only at the ends, leading to uncertainty about the location of the poles and the strength of the magnetic force.

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Participants express differing views on the polarization of flat coils, with some suggesting a similarity to linear coils while others propose distinct characteristics. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact nature of the polarization and magnetic field behavior of flat coils.

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Participants mention practical challenges with flat coils, such as the difficulty in maintaining the shape of the wire and the observed magnetic behavior, which may depend on the specific construction and winding of the coils.

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I know that a linear voice coil is polarized from top to bottom, but how is a flat coil polarized? Would a flat coil be polarized from the inside to the outside? Where the inside(blue) is one pole and the outside(red) is the other? If you were to do multiple windings(stacked layers) would it stay polarized that way, or would it start to become polarized from top to bottom since it would start to resemble a linear coil?
I can't find any info on flat coil windings.
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Think of each tiny segment of coil as having a solenoid field which follows the right-hand rule, and after a bit it becomes apparent that all the solenoids are adding / cancelling to form a net circulating field similar to that of a short, axially magnetized magnet. Bunting magnetics has a field calculator that can help envision such a field.

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Eeek! I made a mistake. Well, a lot of them, but the one in question regards the magnetic field calculator. It's at K&J magnetics.

Sorry for any time I may have wasted...
 
So it's still just axially magnetized? I made a crude flat voice coil(round magnet wire doesn't like to stay put) and couldn't get it to attract/repel a neodymium magnet at the center of it. It would only attract/repel towards the ends of it, like a linear voice coil, so I incorrectly figured that's where the poles were. If the pole is at the face, why wouldn't it have the strongest force at the center of it?
Thanks.
 

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