Building a speaker, have a few questions about the voice coil and magnets

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design and configuration of a speaker prototype, specifically focusing on the arrangement of the voice coil and magnets. Participants explore the implications of different setups on sound quality and magnetic field uniformity, with considerations of both theoretical and practical aspects of speaker design.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their initial speaker design using a voice coil wrapped around a paper tube with magnets on either side of a fixed bolt, expressing concerns about the efficiency of magnet usage.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of a constant magnetic field for low distortion in speaker operation, noting that proximity to magnets can lead to uneven fields.
  • A later reply clarifies that the voice coil's movement is restricted to one axis, suggesting that the magnetic field may be uniform along that axis despite initial concerns.
  • One participant proposes using a Hall sensor to measure the uniformity of the magnetic field when stacking magnets, indicating uncertainty about the field's consistency.
  • Another participant mentions the role of iron in speakers to optimize magnetic induction and concentration, introducing additional considerations about magnetic saturation levels.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints regarding the effectiveness of different voice coil arrangements and the uniformity of the magnetic field. There is no consensus on the best design approach or the implications of the magnetic field characteristics.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge potential limitations in their designs, such as the dependence on the uniformity of the magnetic field and the effects of weight on the voice coil. The discussion remains open-ended regarding the optimal configuration for sound quality.

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Hi there,
I'm building a speaker for my intro to EE class. We were given ten small washer magnets, some washers, a nut and a bolt. Enameled wire is also provided. My group prototyped a speaker with the following configuration:

Voice coil wrapped around a paper tube which fits around the bolt (but does not touch it). The bolt is fixed. Two stacks of five magnets each are on either side of the bolt, magnetizing the bolt so there is (in theory) a magnetic field being produced from inside the voice coil as well as outside.

Our prototype sounds pretty good, but I'm apprehensive because it seems like the magnets are being wasted because there's only a small part of the actual magnets that are close to the voice coil. I am considering changing the design to the following:

All ten magnets stacked up, with a larger paper tube around them and the voice coil around that.

My thinking is that it could be better because the voice coil is constantly very close to the actual magnets (not a magnetized bolt). It would also allow for a larger voice coil. The downside I guess is that the voice coil would be heavier, and would only have a magnetic field generated from the inside. Are there any other factors I should consider? Does one voice coil arrangement work better than the other based on intuition or experience?
 
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One requirement of the magnetic field in a speaker is that it should be constant to get low distortion.

You want the movement of the coil to depend on the current in it and not be influenced by an uneven magnetic field.

Close to a magnet, the field varies enormously depending on the position.

So, it sounds like your experiment has been arranged to give a uniform magnetic field, even at the expense of some field strength.
 
vk6kro said:
One requirement of the magnetic field in a speaker is that it should be constant to get low distortion.

You want the movement of the coil to depend on the current in it and not be influenced by an uneven magnetic field.

Close to a magnet, the field varies enormously depending on the position.

So, it sounds like your experiment has been arranged to give a uniform magnetic field, even at the expense of some field strength.

That's good info. However, I think I didn't explain the setup well enough because the voice coil only moves on one axis, and the magnets are essentially uniform along that axis for both set ups. Hope that makes sense.
 
If the field is uniform, then there will be no problem.

If you have a Hall sensor, you could check how uniform the field is when you stack magnets like that.

I suspect the field won't be very uniform at all, but the best way is to try it and see.

Is the coil attached to some sort of paper cone?
 
Speakers have an iron piece to re-orient the induction from axial to radial and to concentrate it, since iron saturates at 2T and magnets produce only 1.1T as a maximum - or 0.6T if used optimally.
 

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