How Is a Hyperbola Formed from Conic Sections?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the formation of hyperbolas from conic sections, specifically examining how different orientations of a cutting plane through double cones affect the resulting shape. The scope includes theoretical exploration and geometric visualization of conic sections.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant explains that conic sections are formed by cutting a double cone with a plane, describing the conditions for circles, ellipses, parabolas, and hyperbolas.
  • Another participant asserts that a hyperbola is still formed when the cutting plane is not exactly parallel to the axis of the cones.
  • A participant expresses difficulty in visualizing the symmetry of the cuts on the top and bottom cones resulting in a hyperbola.
  • A later reply confirms the symmetry of the cuts, comparing it to how an ellipse is formed when the cut is not perpendicular to the axis.
  • One participant suggests that a geometrical proof or a physical demonstration with cones could help clarify the concept.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is some agreement that a hyperbola is formed under the described conditions, but visualization challenges and the need for further clarification indicate that the discussion remains partially unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the visualization of the geometric relationships involved in the formation of hyperbolas, indicating a potential limitation in understanding without additional resources or demonstrations.

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Conic sections are formed when a plane cuts a double cone, i.e. two cones placed tip to tip along the same axis. A circle is when the plane is perpendicular to the axis, an ellipes when the plane is slightly canted, a parabola when the plane is EXACTLY parallel to the edge of the cones so that the plane cuts only one of the cones. Now the question.

Every diagram I have seen shows the hyperbola being formed when the cutting plane is parallel to the axis of the cones. The plane therefore cuts both the top and bottom cone. What do you get if the cutting plane cuts through both cones but is not exactly parallel to the axis of the cones. Is this still a hyperbola or some other function?
 
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It's still a hyperbola.
 
I find this hard to visualize. So the cut on the top cone would be symmetrical to the cut on the bottom cone as a hyperbola?
 
barryj said:
I find this hard to visualize. So the cut on the top cone would be symmetrical to the cut on the bottom cone as a hyperbola?

Yes. Just as when you get an ellipse (tha is not a circle) if the cut is not perpendicular to the axis.

I guess the best way to convince you is to either read a (geometrical) proof of it, or to construct two cones yourself and make the cut.
 
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