How is acceleration possible if there is an everpresent equal+opp force?

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Acceleration occurs despite equal and opposite forces because these forces act on different objects. In the case of a horse pulling a wagon, the horse exerts a force on the wagon, while the wagon exerts an equal force back on the horse. The net force on the wagon is the horse's pull minus friction, allowing it to accelerate. Similarly, the horse experiences a greater frictional force with the ground, enabling it to accelerate forward as well. Understanding that net forces, not just equal and opposite forces, determine acceleration is key to this concept.
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In the situation where a horse pulls a wagon, how is it possible for the horse to accelerate if the wagon is exerting an equal and opposite force? Wouldn't the forces cancel each other out?
 
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Acceleration is occurs when part or all of the equal and opposing force is a reaction to that acceleration.
 
lamp23 said:
In the situation where a horse pulls a wagon, how is it possible for the horse to accelerate if the wagon is exerting an equal and opposite force? Wouldn't the forces cancel each other out?
The equal and opposite forces act on different objects. The net force on the wagon is the force of the horse on the wagon less some small friction force on the wagon's wheels, so it accelerates. The net force on the horse is the large friction force between the horses feet and the ground driving it forward, less the smaller force of the wagon on the horse calculated above, so the horse also accelerates forward at the same forward acceleration of the wagon .
 
lamp23 said:
In the situation where a horse pulls a wagon, how is it possible for the horse to accelerate if the wagon is exerting an equal and opposite force? Wouldn't the forces cancel each other out?

PhanthomJay said:
The equal and opposite forces act on different objects. The net force on the wagon is the force of the horse on the wagon less some small friction force on the wagon's wheels, so it accelerates. The net force on the horse is the large friction force between the horses feet and the ground driving it forward, less the smaller force of the wagon on the horse calculated above, so the horse also accelerates forward at the same forward acceleration of the wagon .

Remember as PhantomJay pointed out, its the net force that produces the acceleration. Both of which are proportional to one another. If the force of the horse acting on the wagon was equal an opposite to the frictional force acting on the wagons wheels then there is no net force, hence no acceleration.
 
Nice post, Bugattti.
By the bye... I love your cowl. :biggrin:
 
Danger said:
Nice post, Bugattti.
By the bye... I love your cowl. :biggrin:

eh...my what? :confused: :smile:
 
bugatti79 said:
eh...my what? :confused: :smile:

Sorry, Pal... I thought that it was self-evident. I love the old Bugatti's, and one of their signature features was a honkin' long cowl (hood) with the flex-pipe headers sticking out.
 
Danger said:
Sorry, Pal... I thought that it was self-evident. I love the old Bugatti's, and one of their signature features was a honkin' long cowl (hood) with the flex-pipe headers sticking out.

Danger - I knew a fellow long ago that sold a Bugatti Kit for the handyman. Also, I apologize for the off topic comment - it won't happen again
 
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