Exploring the Mechanics of Cloud-to-Ground Lightning Discharge

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In summary, lightning works like a simple capacitor, with charge separation occurring within a cloud due to convection. The bottom part of the cloud becomes negative while the top becomes positive, creating a strong electric field between the cloud and ground. This allows for discharge to the ground instead of between different areas within the cloud, as the distance is often shorter. Additionally, cloud-to-cloud discharges are also common.
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From what I understand lightning works like a simple capacitor.

The convection brings up moist air that by collision with already condensed gas molecules, causes charge separation within the cloud. The bottom part of the cloud becomes negative while the top part becomes positive. The lower part of the cloud establishes a strong electric field between the upper and lower parts of the cloud as well as between the cloud and ground. Just like a capacitor. Turbulent air within the cloud makes it hard for charge from the bottom of the cloud to move up to the top of the cloud to equalize the charges.

Now to my question:
How can it be possible for a cloud to discharge to the ground rather than to discharge towards its upper sections witch I assume is by far much closer in space than the ground below the cloud.
 
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Hi Somnolence
welcome to PF

because the charge separation between the cloud and ground can be larger than that between areas within the cloud. Also the distances involved are often much less between the base regions of the cloud and the ground
than to the upper regions of the cloud

eg. the cloud base may only be around 1,000 metres above the ground, often much less.
Whereas the distances from the base area to the upper cloud areas can easily be 8,000 - 15,000 metres

So its much easier to discharge across the shorter distance

cheers
Dave
 
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In addition, there are frequent cloud-to-cloud discharges. There is a video of this happening as taken from the International Space Station floating aroundon YouTube. Try using the search terms "lightning space station".
 
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cyklop said:
In addition, there are frequent cloud-to-cloud discharges. ...

yes, but that wasn't the question :wink:

I photo and video many CC discharges along with the CG's


Dave
 
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Thanks for the replies! :D
 

1. How does CG lightning occur?

CG (cloud-to-ground) lightning occurs when an electrically charged channel, also known as a stepped leader, extends from the base of a thundercloud towards the ground. When the stepped leader gets close enough to the ground, a powerful return stroke of electricity travels back up the channel, resulting in the bright flash of lightning that we see.

2. What causes the electrical charge in clouds?

The electrical charge in clouds is caused by the separation of positive and negative charges within the cloud. This is due to the movement of water and ice particles, as well as the interaction between different layers of the cloud and the ground. This separation of charges results in an electric field within the cloud.

3. Why does CG lightning strike in certain areas?

CG lightning tends to strike in areas where there is a large concentration of positively charged particles, such as tall buildings, trees, or even people. This is because the positively charged particles attract the negatively charged stepped leaders from the cloud, increasing the chances of a lightning strike.

4. How common is CG lightning?

CG lightning is the most common type of lightning, accounting for about 25% of all lightning strikes. It is also the most dangerous type of lightning, as it can strike from a distance of up to 10 miles away from the actual thunderstorm cloud.

5. Can CG lightning be predicted?

While there are methods of predicting the likelihood of lightning strikes in a certain area, it is not possible to predict when or where exactly CG lightning will occur. Lightning is a highly unpredictable phenomenon that can strike at any time and in any location, making it important to always take proper precautions during a thunderstorm.

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