How Is Energy Loss Calculated in Connected Capacitors?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating energy loss in a circuit involving two connected capacitors, C1 and C2, with given capacitances and charges. The problem is situated within the context of capacitor energy storage and energy loss during connection.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore how to calculate energy loss, questioning whether it refers to total energy loss or individual capacitor losses. They discuss finding the common potential difference and equivalent capacitance, and how to compute the final energy stored in the system.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on calculating the common voltage and equivalent capacitance. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between energy stored and energy loss, with differing calculations presented and a lack of explicit consensus on the correct approach.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the interpretation of energy loss and the calculations involved, indicating a need for clarity on definitions and assumptions related to energy in capacitors.

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Homework Statement


A capacitor C1 (the one on top in the diagram) of capacitance 4 mu F is charged until its charge is 200 mu C and another capacitor C2 (the one below) of capacitance 3 mu F is charged until its charge is 300 mu C . Then both capacitors are connected in the circuit as shown in the figure . What is the total enerygy loss in the capacitors ?


Homework Equations



E=1/2CV^2 or E=1/2 QV

The Attempt at a Solution



I an not sure its asking for energy loss as a whole or energy loss for each capacitors .

so i know how to calculate the energy stored in each capacitors using the formula , what should i do after that >
 

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Find the common potential difference across the capacitors.
They are connected in parallel.
find the equivalent capacitor.
Find the final energy stored in the combination of the capacitors.
 
rl.bhat said:
Find the common potential difference across the capacitors.
They are connected in parallel.
find the equivalent capacitor.
Find the final energy stored in the combination of the capacitors.

ok let me try

the effective pd would be 100+50=150 V

Effective capacitance = 7 mu

energy loss = 1/2 x 7 mu x 150^2 = 0.07875 J ?

but the answer given is 0.002 J

btw , is energy stored in the capacitors the same as energy loss in the capacitors
 
Common voltage V = (Q1 + Q2)/(C1 + C2)
 
rl.bhat said:
Common voltage V = (Q1 + Q2)/(C1 + C2)

thanks , so let me retry ,

E= Q^2/2C

=[(500 x 10^(-6))^2]/2(7 x 10^(-6))

=0.018 which is approximately 0.02 J

Am i correct nw ?
 
That is correct.
 

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