How is momentum conserved here?

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When a car moving at constant velocity collides with a large brick wall, both the car and wall come to rest, raising questions about momentum conservation. The momentum is transferred into the planet through vibrations caused by the impact, which spread the momentum throughout the larger system of the planet, wall, and car wreckage. Although the wall does not visibly move, the vibrations represent motion at a microscopic level. The car essentially returns momentum it borrowed from the planet during acceleration. Kinetic energy is dissipated through permanent deformation of the car and conversion into heat.
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If a car moving with a constant velocity hits a large brick wall. The car just stops once it hits the wall? Both objects are now at rest after the collision, where does all the momentum go? Also, does making the wall vibrate count as anything, or does the wall have to move to give it momentum?
 
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zeromodz said:
If a car moving with a constant velocity hits a large brick wall. The car just stops once it hits the wall? Both objects are now at rest after the collision, where does all the momentum go? Also, does making the wall vibrate count as anything, or does the wall have to move to give it momentum?

You've partly hit on the answer yourself...into the planet the wall is anchored into (or more precisely, into the resulting system of planet+wall+car wreckage), carried by the vibrations from the impact. (The entire planet can't react instantly, the vibrations carry the momentum and spread it through the planet. Note that vibration *is* motion, just of component parts rather than the whole.)

Since the planet is so much larger than the car, there's no noticeable change. Also note that the car used traction against the planet to accelerate in the first place...by smashing into the wall, it's basically just returning some momentum it borrowed while accelerating.
 
cjameshuff said:
Also note that the car used traction against the planet to accelerate in the first place...by smashing into the wall, it's basically just returning some momentum it borrowed while accelerating.
Since the total momentum is always zero, where does the kinetic energy go...? Some goes into permanently deforming the car, some is converted the heat.
 
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