How Is Stress Calculated in a Bar Using Transposed Formulas?

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The discussion revolves around calculating stress in a bar using various transposed formulas. Participants are examining the relationships between stress, strain, and material properties in the context of thermal expansion and deformation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the derivation of a specific term in the equations presented, particularly the expression involving 1/E(σ1L1+σ2L2). Questions arise regarding the assumptions made about the modulus of elasticity (E) and whether it is constant across the materials involved.

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The discussion is focused on clarifying the mathematical relationships and assumptions in the formulas. Some participants are exploring the implications of assuming E1 equals E2, while others are questioning the origin of the term 1/E in the context of the equations provided.

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There is uncertainty regarding the equality of the elastic moduli (E1 and E2), which affects the interpretation of the equations. Participants are navigating through the implications of this assumption in their reasoning.

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Need to find stress in a bar

(α1L1ΔT1+x1)+(α2L2ΔT2+x2)=0

(α1L1ΔT1+ε1L1)+(α2L2ΔT2+ε2L2)=0

(α1L1ΔT1+σ1/E1*L)+(α2L2ΔT2+σ2/E2*L)=0

(α1L1ΔT1+α2L2ΔT2)+σ1/E1*L1+σ2/E2*L2=0

αΔT(L1+L2)+1/E(σ1L1+σ2L2)=0

I can work out most of this formula but i don't understand how we got the highlighted line 1/E(σ1L1+σ2L2)=0
 
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anthonyk2013 said:
i don't understand how we got the highlighted line 1/E(σ1L1+σ2L2)=0
You don't mean the '=0' there, right?
I presume it should be (σ1/E1)*L1+(σ2/E2)*L2 and (1/E)(σ1L1+σ2L2), which are the same if E=E1=E2. With no context, I cannot tell whether E1=E2.
 
No=0 fine. It 1/E where did that come from.
 
anthonyk2013 said:
No=0 fine. It 1/E where did that come from.
You have (σ1/E1)*L1+(σ2/E2)*L2. If E1=E2=E then that reduces to (σ1/E)*L1+(σ2/E)*L2 = (1/E)(σ1)*L1+(1/E)(σ2)*L2 = (1/E)(σ1L1+σ2L2).
 

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