How Is the Magnetic Field Oriented Around a Current-Carrying Wire?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the orientation of the magnetic field around a current-carrying wire, specifically how to define north and south in this context. It involves theoretical explanations and interpretations of magnetic field behavior around straight wires.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose using the "right hand rule" to determine the direction of the magnetic field around a wire, indicating that the thumb points in the direction of current and fingers follow the magnetic lines of flux.
  • It is mentioned that the magnetic field around a single wire does not have defined north or south poles, contrasting with the behavior of a normal magnet.
  • One participant challenges the claim that the direction of the flux lines points towards north, arguing that without defined poles, this statement is contradictory.
  • Another participant asserts that a solenoid is necessary to define north and south poles in a magnetic field, implying that a single wire does not possess this characteristic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the existence of north and south poles in the magnetic field of a single wire, with some asserting that such poles do not exist while others suggest that the direction of the magnetic field can still be associated with north.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the ambiguity in defining magnetic poles for a single wire and the reliance on specific definitions of magnetic field behavior, which may not be universally accepted.

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How do you place/define north and south in the magnetic field around a wire with a current running through it?
 
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You can use the right hand rule: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_hand_grip_rule#Direction_associated_with_a_rotation

An electric current passes through a straight wire. Here, the thumb points in the direction of the conventional current (from positive to negative), and the fingers point in the direction of the magnetic lines of flux.

The direction of the flux lines points towards north. Note that a single wire has a magnetic field running around it, not through it like a normal magnet. As such, there is no single north or south pole.
 
Drakkith said:
The direction of the flux lines points towards north. Note that a single wire has a magnetic field running around it, not through it like a normal magnet. As such, there is no single north or south pole.

The second statement above contradicts the first. How can the flux lines point towards north when there is no north or south pole?

The first statement is actually incorrect. there is no such thing as a north pole or a south pole for the magnetic field of a single wire. You need a solenoid in order to be able to define poles.
 

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