How Is the Surface Area of a Rotated Curve Calculated Using Integrals?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the surface area of a curve rotated around the x-axis, specifically using the formula 2π times the integral of f(x)√(1 + (f'(x))^2) dx from a to b. Participants explore parameterizing the surface but encounter difficulties with the cross product of partial derivatives. Suggestions include simplifying the approach by using trigonometric identities and introducing a second parameter, such as the angle of rotation, to better express the surface. The conversation emphasizes the need for clarity in parameterization to avoid confusion in calculations. Overall, the thread highlights common challenges and strategies in applying integral calculus to surface area problems.
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Homework Statement



Consider the surface S formed by rotating the graph of y = f(x) around the x-axis between x = a and x = b. Assume that f(x) ≥ 0 for axb. Show that the surface area of S is 2π times integral of f(x)sqrt(1 + f ' (x)^2) dx from a to b.

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Homework Equations



The integral of the magnitude of the cross product of the partial derivatives of parameterization vector, r = r(s,t). The region is R.

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried parameterizing the surface with parameters of x and f(x). The surface I set as g(x,f(x)). But when I took the cross product of that thing, I ended up with a useless statement involving partial derivatives which does not lead to the solution.

Homework Statement


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countzander said:

Homework Equations


The integral of the magnitude of the cross product of the partial derivatives of parameterization vector, r = r(s,t). The region is R.
That's not an equation. Can you elaborate?
I tried parameterizing the surface with parameters of x and f(x). The surface I set as g(x,f(x)). But when I took the cross product of that thing, I ended up with a useless statement involving partial derivatives which does not lead to the solution.
Please post details of you working.
 
hi countzander! :smile:
countzander said:
I tried parameterizing the surface with parameters of x and f(x) …

why so complicated? :cry:

just use trig! :smile:

(and f' = tan)
 
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countzander said:

Homework Statement



Consider the surface S formed by rotating the graph of y = f(x) around the x-axis between x = a and x = b. Assume that f(x) ≥ 0 for axb. Show that the surface area of S is 2π times integral of f(x)sqrt(1 + f ' (x)^2) dx from a to b.

http://i.imgur.com/qFeGP.png

Homework Equations



The integral of the magnitude of the cross product of the partial derivatives of parameterization vector, r = r(s,t). The region is R.

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried parameterizing the surface with parameters of x and f(x). The surface I set as g(x,f(x)).

That isn't two parameters. ##x## is free to use as a parameter but then ##f(x)## is determined. You need another parameter if you want to do it that way. I would suggest ##\theta##, the angle of rotation as the second parameter. Express your surface as$$
\vec R(x,\theta) = \langle x, ?, ?\rangle$$where the question marks are the appropriate expressions for ##y## and ##z## in terms of ##x,\, f(x),\, \theta##.
 
Question: A clock's minute hand has length 4 and its hour hand has length 3. What is the distance between the tips at the moment when it is increasing most rapidly?(Putnam Exam Question) Answer: Making assumption that both the hands moves at constant angular velocities, the answer is ## \sqrt{7} .## But don't you think this assumption is somewhat doubtful and wrong?

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