How Is Work Calculated in a Force Field Along a Parametrized Curve?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work done by a force field, specifically F = 3yi - x²j, while moving a particle along the curve defined by y = x^(1/2) from the point (1,1) to (4,2). Participants are exploring the correct parameterization and integration methods to arrive at the work done.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss different parameterizations of the curve, with some suggesting x = t² and y = t as a suitable approach. Others question the original parameterization and its implications on the integration process.

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There is an ongoing exploration of parameterization methods, with some participants providing alternative approaches and clarifying the relationships between x and y. Guidance has been offered regarding the correct forms of dx and dy in the context of the force field.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of parameterization and integration, with some expressing confusion about the initial setup and the resulting calculations. The discussion reflects a variety of interpretations regarding the parameterization of the curve.

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Find the work done by the force field F= 3yi - x^2j
in moving a particle along the curve y=x^(1/2) from (1,1) to (4,2)


so i parameterize and get x=1+3t, y= 1+t

so

3(1+t)-(1+t)^2

then take the derivative of x and y and multiple to ge
9(1+t)-(1+t)^2

and i integrate that from 0-1
and i get 13/2


but the answer should be 39/5

so my question is where am i going wrong
 
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The work done is given by:
[tex] W=\int_{\gamma}\mathbf{F}\cdot d\mathbf{r}[/tex]
where [itex]d\mathbf{r}=dx\mathbf{i}+dy\mathbf{j}[/itex]
 
yes it is
 
if y=x^1/2, then dy=...

Also on the curve you know that y=x^1/2, and so...
 
dy=1/2x^-(1/2)
 
the correct answer is [itex]dy=1/2x^-(1/2)dx[/itex], insert this into F.dr to find that F.dr=...
 
would i have to parameterize the x?
 
No, just work out F.dr in terms of x and dx.
 
I still don't see how that is going to work
 
  • #10
Punkyc7 said:
Find the work done by the force field F= 3yi - x^2j
in moving a particle along the curve y=x^(1/2) from (1,1) to (4,2)


so i parameterize and get x=1+3t, y= 1+t
This is wrong. If y= 1+ t, then t= y- 1 so x= 1+ 3(y- 1)= 3y- 2. That is linear- it is the straight line through (1, 1) and (4, 2).

Use [itex]x= t^2[/itex], [itex]y= t[/itex], with t from 1 to 2 instead.
Now F= 3ti- t^4 j, dx= 2tdt, dy= dt so
[tex]\int_{t= 1}^2 (3t)(2t)dt- (t^4)dt= \int_{t=1}^2 (6t^2- t^4)dt[/tex]

so

3(1+t)-(1+t)^2

then take the derivative of x and y and multiple to ge
9(1+t)-(1+t)^2

and i integrate that from 0-1
and i get 13/2


but the answer should be 39/5

so my question is where am i going wrong
 
  • #11
Thanks Halls, that made sense. I have one more question how do you know to to parameterize it the way you did? is it because y=x^1/2 so choose x=t^2 ad y=t
 
  • #12
Yes. Of course you could always use [itex]x= t[/itex], [itex]y= t^{1/2}[/itex] with t from 1 to 4. There are many different ways to parameterize any curve.
 

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