How Long Does It Take for a Flywheel to Stop?

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a flywheel that slows down from an angular speed of 1.5 rad/s to a stop after completing 40 revolutions. Participants are exploring the relationship between angular velocity, angular acceleration, and the time taken to come to rest, while assuming constant acceleration.

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  • Participants discuss various equations related to angular motion, questioning the use of units and the correctness of their equations. There is an exploration of the turning angle in terms of revolutions and radians, with some participants attempting to clarify the relationship between angular displacement and angular velocity.

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The discussion includes attempts to derive equations for angular motion and check the validity of their approaches. Some participants express uncertainty about their understanding of the concepts involved, while others provide guidance on the equations and units to consider. There is no explicit consensus, but productive dialogue is occurring around the problem.

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Participants are grappling with the conversion between revolutions and radians, and there is mention of potential confusion regarding the application of equations for constant angular velocity versus those for angular acceleration.

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Homework Statement


A flywheel turns through 40 rev as it slows from an angular speed of 1.5 rad/s to a stop.Assuming a constant acceleration,find the tme for it to come to rest.

Homework Equations


##w-w_0=∝t##

The Attempt at a Solution


In Δt secon the change in w will be 1.5 and this time it will rotate 40 times..I tried every equaiton like
0-1.5=∝t
or
40=1.5t-1/2∝t^2
but I couldn't found
 
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Arman777 said:
40=1.5t-1/2∝t^2
but I couldn't found
There is another equation that you should know that involves initial and final velocities, acceleration and angle of rotation.
Also, you are mixing units here: revolutions and radians.
 
Check the units of your last equation (I wonder: why couldn't you solve it ? - or did it just give the wrong answer ?)
 
BvU said:
Check the units of your last equation (I wonder: why couldn't you solve it ? - or did it just give the wrong answer ?)

I am really bad at this whole rotation-torque subject.I ll look again..I know my equation is wrong...
 
What is the turning angle when the flywheel rotates 40 times?
Also check the signs.
 
ehild said:
What is the turning angle when the flywheel rotates 40 times?

turning angle ?
 
Arman777 said:
turning angle ?
Or angle of rotation. What is the angle the wheel rotates during one revolution?
 
ehild said:
Or angle of rotation. What is the angle the wheel rotates during one revolution?

2π ?
 
Are we turning 40 rev to 80π rad ??
 
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Arman777 said:
2π ?
yes. And during 40 revolutions?
 
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ehild said:
yes. And during 40 revolutions?

I posted 80π ?
 
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Arman777 said:
I posted 80π ?
Yes. So what are the equations for the change of angular velocity and angular rotation angle in time Δt?
 
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##w-w_0=∝t##and
##Δθ=wt ##

or ##Δθ=wt-\frac 1 2∝t^2##
 
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Arman777 said:
##w-w_0=∝t##and
##Δθ=wt ##

or ##Δθ=wt-\frac 1 2∝t^2##
Δθ=wt is only valid for constant angular velocity.
##Δθ=w_0t+\frac {1 }{2}\alpha t^2## that is valid with positive sign.
Eliminate alpha.
 
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I guess I have to study this more to understand the basics.I ll open another thread
 
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Δw=-1.5 and Δθ is 80 so

Δw=-1.5=∝t and

80=1.5t-1/21.5t

Is this true ?
 
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The rotational equations pretty much follow directly from the linear equations. So if you can remember the linear equations, the rotational should be easy.
v = vo + at → ω = ωo + αt
v2 = vo2 + 2ax → ω2 = ωo2 + 2αθ
x = vot + at2/2 → θ = ωot + αt2/2
F = ma → Γ = Iα
ρ = mv → L = Iω
Ek = mv2/2 → Ek = Iω2/2

Arman777 said:
80=1.5t-1/21.5t

Is this true ?
I think so, except it should be 80π instead of 80.
 
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Ok,I found...Thanks all of you...Just couldn't see that
 
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