How Long Does It Take for Captain Kirk to Fall to the Valley Floor?

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This discussion revolves around a physics problem involving free fall, specifically calculating the time it takes for Captain Kirk to fall to the valley floor from a height of 59 meters. The problem includes considerations of potential and kinetic energy, as well as the application of kinematic equations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of the formula d=1/2gt^2 to determine the time of fall, with one participant expressing uncertainty about their calculations and the validity of their results compared to provided options.
  • Questions arise regarding the accuracy of calculated kinetic energy and potential energy at various points during the fall, with some participants seeking clarification on the correct application of formulas.
  • There is a mention of the need to differentiate between average and instantaneous velocity in the context of changing velocity during free fall.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their calculations and questioning the correctness of their results. Some guidance has been offered regarding the distinction between average and instantaneous velocity, but no consensus has been reached on the correct time of fall or energy calculations.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is also a reference to specific answer choices that do not align with the calculations presented.

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Homework Statement


This is a problem that followed a bunch of others so I will post what I got for those as well.

Here is the problem: How long would it take Kirk to fall to the valley floor?

5.29s or 3.47s or 11.836s or 2.43s or none of those. I am not getting any of them, I don't know if I am doing it correct. I am using the d=1/2gt^2 formula and get 3.645s. Distance being 35.721m and g being 9.8.

And that number is not any of the choices listed... is it non of the above?

Homework Equations



Captain James T Kirk is on vacation in Ca. He is climbing 59m above the floor of the valley when he stops to rest. Cpt. Kirk has a mass of 110kg. What is the potential energy of Kirk? I got 63602J, using the PE=mgh formula.
His kinetic energy would be 0 when he rests.

Kirk suddenly looses his grip and begins to fall! How far does he fall in 2.7s? I got 35.721m using d=1/2gt^2

What is Kirks velocity after falling for 2.7s? I got 13.23m/s using the v=d/t formula.

What is his kinetic energy after falling for 2.7s? I am not sure about that one, but I got 9626.8095J using the kinetic formula KE=1/2mv^2

What is his potential energy after falling 2.7s? Using the potential energy formula P subscript E =mgh I came up with 38507.238J.

Thank you for your time.
 
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I should also say that the number I got for what his kinetic energy after falling for 2.7s is not listed either. I just do not have anyone to compare my work with currently.
 


Justhelp said:

Homework Statement


This is a problem that followed a bunch of others so I will post what I got for those as well.

Here is the problem: How long would it take Kirk to fall to the valley floor?

5.29s or 3.47s or 11.836s or 2.43s or none of those. I am not getting any of them, I don't know if I am doing it correct. I am using the d=1/2gt^2 formula and get 3.645s. Distance being 35.721m and g being 9.8.

And that number is not any of the choices listed... is it non of the above?

Homework Equations



Captain James T Kirk is on vacation in Ca. He is climbing 59m above the floor of the valley when he stops to rest. Cpt. Kirk has a mass of 110kg. What is the potential energy of Kirk? I got 63602J, using the PE=mgh formula.
His kinetic energy would be 0 when he rests.

Kirk suddenly looses his grip and begins to fall! How far does he fall in 2.7s? I got 35.721m using d=1/2gt^2

What is Kirks velocity after falling for 2.7s? I got 13.23m/s using the v=d/t formula.

What is his kinetic energy after falling for 2.7s? I am not sure about that one, but I got 9626.8095J using the kinetic formula KE=1/2mv^2

What is his potential energy after falling 2.7s? Using the potential energy formula P subscript E =mgh I came up with 38507.238J.

Thank you for your time.

How far does he fall if he falls all the way to the valley floor.

BTW: (The correct answer is) there.)
 


Using d=rt?
 


But..I don't have time.
 


I can't use distance or time because the numbers I got were for 2.7s.
 


Justhelp said:

Homework Statement


This is a problem that followed a bunch of others so I will post what I got for those as well.

Here is the problem: How long would it take Kirk to fall to the valley floor?

5.29s or 3.47s or 11.836s or 2.43s or none of those. I am not getting any of them, I don't know if I am doing it correct. I am using the d=1/2gt^2 formula and get 3.645s. Distance being 35.721m and g being 9.8.

And that number is not any of the choices listed... is it non of the above?

Homework Equations



Captain James T Kirk is on vacation in Ca. He is climbing 59m above the floor of the valley when he stops to rest. Cpt. Kirk has a mass of 110kg. What is the potential energy of Kirk? I got 63602J, using the PE=mgh formula.
His kinetic energy would be 0 when he rests.

Kirk suddenly looses his grip and begins to fall! How far does he fall in 2.7s? I got 35.721m using d=1/2gt^2

What is Kirks velocity after falling for 2.7s? I got 13.23m/s using the v=d/t formula.

What is his kinetic energy after falling for 2.7s? I am not sure about that one, but I got 9626.8095J using the kinetic formula KE=1/2mv^2

What is his potential energy after falling 2.7s? Using the potential energy formula P subscript E =mgh I came up with 38507.238J.

Thank you for your time.


His velocity after falling 2.7 sec is not d/t, because his velocity has been changing as he accelerates downward. d/t is his average velocity after 2.7 sec, not his instantaneous velocity. You know his acceleration and his initial velocity (zero), so, again, what is his velocity after 2.7 sec?
 


Justhelp said:
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Captain James T Kirk is on vacation in Ca. He is climbing 59m above the floor of the valley...

How far does he fall if he falls all the way to the valley floor?
 

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