How long is a piece of sinosoidal string?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the arc length of a sine wave, specifically using the integral formula for arc length in calculus.

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  • The original poster attempts to use the arc length formula and simplifies the integral but expresses uncertainty about integration techniques. Other participants mention the use of elliptic integrals and the lack of an elementary solution.

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The conversation includes attempts to clarify the nature of the integral and its complexity. Participants acknowledge the challenges in finding an analytical solution, with some expressing disappointment over the limitations of elementary methods.

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There is a mention of specific integration techniques that the original poster is unfamiliar with, which may affect their ability to progress in solving the problem.

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I am trying to calculate the arc length of a sine wave.

Using [tex]s=\int_{}^{}\sqrt[]{1 + {(\frac{dy}{dx})}^{2}}dx[/tex]

if y = sinx, dy/dx = cosx

So the integral simplyfies to [tex]s=\int_{}^{}\sqrt[]{1 + {cos}^{2}(x)}dx[/tex]

However I do not know any integration technique (ie. substitution, by parts, etc..) with which I can calculate this integral analytically.

If you can think of any other way of going about this, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Benjy
 
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Mathematica calls this function EllipticE (performing the integral from 0 to 2п gives [itex]4\sqrt{2}\mathtt{EllipticE}(1/2) \approx 7.6404[/itex]), so I doubt there is a more elementary answer (like [itex]\pi/2[/itex] or [itex]\operatorname{arcsinh}(-1)[/itex]).
 
Right, there is no elementary answer
 
I have to admit I am a little disappointed. I thought there might be a way of performing the integral by pure analytical means.
But thank you very much for your responses.
 

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