How Many Positive Divisors for 2^n and 30? | Discrete Math Question

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The discussion revolves around determining the number of positive divisors for the expressions 2n (where n is a positive integer) and the number 30. Participants are exploring the properties of divisors in the context of discrete mathematics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to identify the divisors of 30 and questioning the inclusion of certain numbers, such as 10 and 1. They are also exploring patterns in the divisors of 2n based on different values of n.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints and guidance regarding the identification of prime divisors and the nature of divisors for powers of 2. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the divisors and the expressions in question, with no clear consensus yet on the definitions or counts of divisors.

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Participants are discussing whether 1 should be considered a divisor and are also questioning the implications of divisibility for powers of 2. The conversation reflects uncertainty about the definitions and properties of divisors in this context.

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Homework Statement


How many positive divisors does each of the following have?

[tex]2^n[/tex] where n is a positive integer.
and 30

The Attempt at a Solution


for 30 i get 2 , 5 , 3 , 10
but my book says 2 ,3 ,5 I don't understand why 10 isn't a divisor.
and for 2^n I am trying to look for a pattern if n=1 i get no divisors
and n=2 i get 1 divisor and n=3 i get 2 divisors so would it be
2^n has n-1 divisors?
 
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hi cragar! :smile:

(try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box, and write "itex" rather than "tex", and it won't keep starting a new line :wink:)
cragar said:
How many positive divisors does each of the following have?

for 30 i get 2 , 5 , 3 , 10
but my book says 2 ,3 ,5

i suspect that that's just a hint, and they're telling you those are the prime divisors, and leaving you to carry on from there

(btw, you've missed out two more)
and for 2^n I am trying to look for a pattern if n=1 i get no divisors
and n=2 i get 1 divisor and n=3 i get 2 divisors so would it be
2^n has n-1 divisors?

yes :smile:

(though you should be able to prove it more rigorously than that! :wink:)
 
ok thanks for your post. so would all the divisors of 30 be 1 , 2 ,5,6,10 ,15 . is one a divisor. for [itex]2^n[/itex] to have divisors it has to be a multiple of 2 so would I divide it by 2 and then i would get [itex]2^{n-1}[/itex]
then could i say it has n-1 divisors
 
hi cragar! :wink:
cragar said:
would all the divisors of 30 be 1 , 2 ,5,6,10 ,15 .

yes :smile: (except i don't know whether 1 counts as a divisor :redface:)
for [itex]2^n[/itex] to have divisors it has to be a multiple of 2 so would I divide it by 2 and then i would get [itex]2^{n-1}[/itex]
then could i say it has n-1 divisors

better would be …

2n has only one prime divisor, 2 …

so its only divisors are 2k for 0 < k < n, of which there are n - 1 :wink:

(and now try a similar proof for 30 :biggrin:)
 

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