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The discussion revolves around finding all the positive divisors of \(10^n\), where \(n\) is a positive integer. Participants explore the relationship between the prime factorization of \(10^n\) and its divisors.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the factorization of \(10^n\) as \(2^n5^n\) and question how to derive the total number of divisors from this form. There is an exploration of the patterns in the number of divisors for specific values, such as \(10\) and \(100\). Some participants suggest a combinatorial approach to counting the divisors based on the prime factors.

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There is active engagement with multiple interpretations of how to calculate the number of divisors. Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem by considering the prime factorization and the independent choices for the powers of the prime factors.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the depth of exploration into the proof of the conjectures being discussed.

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Homework Statement


Find all the positive divisors of [itex]10^n[/itex]
where n is a positive integer.

The Attempt at a Solution


can I factor this like [itex]2^n5^n[/itex]
I notice that 10 has 4 divisors and 100 has 8
so it might seem that it has 4n divisors but I am not should how to give a nice proof of it.
 
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Hi cragar! :smile:

cragar said:

Homework Statement


Find all the positive divisors of [itex]10^n[/itex]
where n is a positive integer.

The Attempt at a Solution


can I factor this like [itex]2^n5^n[/itex]
I notice that 10 has 4 divisors and 100 has 8
so it might seem that it has 4n divisors but I am not should how to give a nice proof of it.

100 has more than 8 divisors! In fact, these are the divisors of 100:

[tex]1,2,4,5,10,20,25,50,100[/tex]

So 100 has 9 divisors! (you might see another pattern popping up now).

To prove the general conjecture, you need to find a connection between the divisors and the prime factorization. That is, if you know the prime factorization, how can you calculate all the divisors?

If you're unsure where to begin, begin by calculating the prime factorization of the 9 divisors of 100, and see if you notice something cool...
 
Looks like a good start, cragar! Except 100 has 9 factors:
1, 2, 4, 5, 10, 20, 25, 50, 100.

Anyway, now it's essentially a combinatorics problem. Using your prime factorization of [itex]10^n[/itex], any divisor will be of the form [itex]2^k 5^k[/itex] with k between what and what? From there it's just a counting problem.

EDIT: Whoops, beaten to the punch!
 
thanks for the help guys, I see that any divisor can be written as
[itex]2^k5^d[/itex]
where k and d go from 0 to n , so i just have all the different possible combinations of k and d between 0 to n .
 
And can you find how many different such combinations there are?
 
You can have the following divisors, not sorted in an increasing order:

[tex] \begin{array}{l}<br /> 1, 5, 5^{2}, \ldots, 5^{n} \\<br /> 2, 2*5, 2*5^{2}, \ldots, 2*5^{n} \\<br /> \ldots \\<br /> 2^{n}, 2^{n}*5,2^{n}*5^{2}, \ldots, 2^{n}*5^{n}<br /> \end{array}[/tex]
 
Perhaps an easier way of looking at it is this:

Step 1: Pick number of 2's

n+1 ways (do you see why?)

Step 2: Pick number of 5's

n+1 ways (do you see why?)


Since these operations are independent...
 
gb7nash said:
Perhaps an easier way of looking at it is this:

Step 1: Pick number of 2's

n+1 ways (do you see why?)

Step 2: Pick number of 5's

n+1 ways (do you see why?)
Since these operations are independent...
It seems like you would have to construct all the divisors from the primes from 0 to n,
I am not sure exactly why you would pick them n+1 ways?
Is the reason i can pick the number of 2's (n+1) ways because I can pick it n ways and then I also want to include zero so I add one.
And then I will pick 5 the same way and then I will multiply my choices together
(n+1)(n+1)
 
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cragar said:
Is the reason i can pick the number of 2's (n+1) ways because I can pick it n ways and then I also want to include zero so I add one.
And then I will pick 5 the same way and then I will multiply my choices together
(n+1)(n+1)

Correct
 
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sweet thanks
 

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