How Many Ways Can Martians, Vesuvians, and Jovians Line Up?

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The problem involves determining the number of ways to arrange 5 distinct Martians, 10 distinct Vesuvians, and 8 distinct Jovians in a line, with the condition that no two Martians stand next to each other.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss various methods for arranging the characters, including filling gaps created by Vesuvians and Jovians to ensure Martians do not stand together. Some express confusion about the calculations and the implications of their approaches.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and expressing uncertainty about their results. Some guidance has been offered regarding the arrangement strategy, but there is no clear consensus on the correct approach or final answer.

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Participants mention feeling lost and express concerns about their understanding of permutations and combinations in relation to the problem. There is also a note of frustration regarding previous attempts and the clarity of the answers obtained.

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In how many ways can 5 distinct Martians, ten distinct Vesuvians and eight distinct Jovians wait together in line if no two Martains stand together>



2. 10_p_5 = 10! & 5! but what about 8? and 2?



3. 10! = 10*9*8*7*6*5*4*3*2*1
8! = 8*7*6*5*4*3*2*1
5! = 5*4*3*2*1
10*9 = 90/2 = 45?



I am so lost.. I am not a programmer..but required to take this class for my major! Please anyone help me out??
 
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consider a line of vesuvians and jovians and fill the martians into the gaps. That'll be the total possible ways of fitting in Martians so that no two matians stay together.
 
hummm

I did that one already and I didn't like the answer. But thanks.
 
RedSunflowers32 said:
I did that one already and I didn't like the answer.
what does that mean :confused:
 
It means I did the chain with every 3rd position there is a Martian, but that does not tell me how to write the equation to present the proper answer. If I factor out each element 5! = 120 * 10! = 3628800 *8! =40320
which gives me an answer of 1.5801827328E15.
Since we are working with combinations and Premutations I'm lost on which way to do the problem.
 

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