How Much Energy is Needed to Move a Satellite to Infinity from Earth Orbit?

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The discussion centers around calculating the minimum energy required to move a satellite from its orbit around Earth to a location far away. The problem involves concepts from gravitational potential energy and kinetic energy, specifically applying the Energy Principle.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the Energy Principle, calculating changes in kinetic and potential energy. Some participants question the initial assumptions regarding kinetic energy and the conditions for escape from Earth's gravitational influence.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering insights about the kinetic energy already possessed by the satellite and discussing the concept of binding energy. There is a recognition of the need to consider the satellite's existing kinetic energy in the calculations.

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There is mention of the binding energy of a satellite in orbit, suggesting that the original poster may need to adjust their calculations based on this concept. Additionally, some participants are new to the forum and are seeking guidance on how to navigate the platform.

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A satellite of mass 7500 kg orbits the Earth in a circular orbit of radius of 7.3(10^6) m (this is above the Earth's atmosphere). The mass of the Earth is 6.0(10^24) kg.

What is the minimum amount of energy required to move the satellite from this orbit to a location very far away from the Earth?


We are supposed to employ the Energy Principle to solve this problem, so we start with:

K_i + U_i = K_f + U_f

We know that K (at low speeds) = (1/2)*m*(v^2) and U = -GmM/r


Using the Energy Principle, we know that

K_f - K_i = U_i - U_f

ΔK = -ΔU = -GmM[(1/r_f) - (1/r_i)]

Since r_f is very large, ΔK = GmM(1/r_i)

Using accepted and aforementioned values,
ΔK = [6.7(10^-11) * 7500 * 6(10^24)]/[7.3(10^6)]

This got me approximately 4.13(10^11)J, which is apparently incorrect. What am I doing wrong?
 
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brometheus said:
A satellite of mass 7500 kg orbits the Earth in a circular orbit of radius of 7.3(10^6) m (this is above the Earth's atmosphere). The mass of the Earth is 6.0(10^24) kg.

What is the minimum amount of energy required to move the satellite from this orbit to a location very far away from the Earth?We are supposed to employ the Energy Principle to solve this problem, so we start with:

K_i + U_i = K_f + U_f

We know that K (at low speeds) = (1/2)*m*(v^2) and U = -GmM/rUsing the Energy Principle, we know that

K_f - K_i = U_i - U_f

ΔK = -ΔU = -GmM[(1/r_f) - (1/r_i)]

Since r_f is very large, ΔK = GmM(1/r_i)

Using accepted and aforementioned values,
ΔK = [6.7(10^-11) * 7500 * 6(10^24)]/[7.3(10^6)]

This got me approximately 4.13(10^11)J, which is apparently incorrect. What am I doing wrong?
You are forgetting that it already has kinetic energy. If it gained GmM/R in kinetic energy it would have more than enough energy to escape.

In order to escape, it has to have just enough kinetic energy to get to an arbitrarily large distance from the Earth ie. where it has 0 kinetic and 0 potential energy.

So the condition for escape is: KE + U = 0

Can you write the equation for KEr+ Ur (hint: if there are no external forces acting, does KE + U change?)

Welcome to PF by the way!

AM
 
the binding energy of a satellite moving in an orbit is GMm/2r. so i think you ought to divide your answer by 2. [4.13*(10^11)] will be the answer if it is at rest on the Earth's surface.
PS: i am new here. could you please tell me how to start a new thread?
 
Ah, okay, that makes sense now. Thanks for your help, and the warm welcome!

To start a new thread I just went to the specific forum (Introductory Physics in this case) and clicked "New Topic" at the top right. It's in the same location as "New Reply" on this page.
 

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