How Much Torque Is Required to Stop the Rotating Rod System in 8.53 Seconds?

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The problem involves a rotating rod system with two connected balls, where the objective is to determine the torque required to stop the system within a specified time frame. The context includes concepts from rotational dynamics and torque calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of angular velocity and angular acceleration, with one attempting to find the torque using the relationship between torque, moment of inertia, and angular acceleration. Questions arise regarding the appropriate formula for moment of inertia and the treatment of the rod's mass.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring different methods to calculate the moment of inertia and torque. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of the moment of inertia formula, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

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There is a mention of the rod being massless, which raises questions about how to calculate the moment of inertia for the system. Participants are considering the implications of this assumption on their calculations.

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Homework Statement



A 1.02 kg ball and a 2.06 kg ball are connected by a 0.95 m long rigid, massless rod. The rod is rotating clockwise about its center of mass at 38 rpm. What torque will bring the balls to a halt in 8.53 s? (Give an absolute value of torque.)


Homework Equations



torque = F * r sin theta
(rpm/60)*2pi= angular velocity (int)
anglv fin = anglv int + anglaccel * delta t
accel = anglaccel * r
F=ma


The Attempt at a Solution



First I found the angular velocity initial of the system using the (38rpm/60)*2pi
then I found angular acceleration need to reach angular velocity final = 0 in 8.53s by
0 = (38rpm/60)*2pi + angular accel * 8.53s
I solved for accel by multiplying the answer found for angular accel by radius which is 0.95/2m.
Then i found the torques (F=ma so mass of ball 1 and 2 * accel * radius) and added them together since, I assumed that both forces were in the same direction. I thought that these torques added together would give me my answer. But I'm getting it wrong. Can anyone help? did I overlook some element to this problem.
 
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Well when you find the angular deceleration,[itex]\alpha[/itex]. I believe you can just use [itex]\tau = I \alpha[/itex], where I is the moment of inertia.
 
rock.freak667 said:
Well when you find the angular deceleration,[itex]\alpha[/itex]. I believe you can just use [itex]\tau = I \alpha[/itex], where I is the moment of inertia.

How would i solve for the moment of inertia? Is it I=1/12*M*L^2 for a rod with axis at center? what would the M be?
 
Prophet029 said:
How would i solve for the moment of inertia? Is it 1/12*M*L^2 for a rod with axis at center? what would the M be?

I guess since they said the mass is negligible you can just ignore it and just use I=mr2 for the two masses
 
That did it. Thanks
 

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