How Strong is the Magnetic Field Inside a Toroid?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the magnetic field inside a toroid, given specific parameters such as the length of wire, current, and dimensions of the toroid. The subject area includes electromagnetism and magnetic fields.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use the formula for the magnetic field but is uncertain about determining the number of windings (N). Some participants suggest calculating the number of turns based on the wire length and toroid dimensions.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring how to relate the dimensions of the toroid to the number of turns that can be made with the available wire. There is a productive exchange of hints and clarifications regarding the use of circumference in the calculations.

Contextual Notes

There is some confusion regarding the need for the area of the toroid's cross-section versus the circumference, which has led to varying interpretations of the problem setup.

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You are going to wrap a toroid with 273 m of copper wire that can carry a current of I = 1.7 A. The toroid has radius R = 16 cm and cross sectional diameter D = 1.2 cm. How large a magnetic field (T) can you make at the average toroidal radius?

I have been using the formula B = (\mu*N*I)/2*\pi*R
where \mu = 4\pi*10^-7, N = number of windings of the coil, and I is the current...I have no idea how to figure out N though. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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You know how long the wire is and the size of the toroid. How many turns can you make with that much wire?
 
well L = 272m, and I am given R and the cross sectional diameter, and I know I need to combine those to get the size of the toroid, but I don't know how to combine them. I've attached a picture that associated with the problem.
 

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Hint: What's the circumference of the toroid cross-section?
 
Well, circumference = diameter time pi, so would the cross sectional circumference = pi * 1.2cm ? Even so, I am still really confused how to incorporate that into finding the total area of the circle. I understand I should essentially be thinking of the toroid as an inner circle and outer circle, but I can visualize how to incorporate both into the total area...
 
hellogirl88 said:
Well, circumference = diameter time pi, so would the cross sectional circumference = pi * 1.2cm ?
Good. So how many times can you wrap the wire around that circumference?
Even so, I am still really confused how to incorporate that into finding the total area of the circle.
You don't need the area of the circle, just the circumference.
 
Thank you so so much! It makes much more sense to me now. Another student in my class explained it in a way that implied needing the area of the circles, which is what confused me. Thanks again
 

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