Magnetic field at centre and inside the toroid

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The discussion revolves around calculating the ratio of magnetic induction inside a toroidal core to that at the center of the toroid, given a specific number of wire turns and current flowing through the wire. The subject area includes concepts from electromagnetism, specifically relating to magnetic fields in toroidal structures.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of the toroidal core's geometry on the magnetic field, questioning the assumption that the magnetic field at the center is zero while it is finite inside the core. There is also discussion about the effective number of turns contributing to the magnetic field at the center.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the geometry of the toroid and its effect on the magnetic field calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the core's thickness and its impact on the magnetic field expressions, but no consensus has been reached on the correct ratio or the implications of the calculations.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding the number of turns contributing to the magnetic field at the center of the toroid, as well as the assumptions made about the core's thickness. These factors are under consideration but remain unresolved.

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Homework Statement


##N=2.5\times 10^3## wire turns are uniformly wound on a wooden toroidal core of a very small cross-section. A current ##I## flows through the wire. Find the ratio ##\eta## of the magnetic induction inside the core to that at the centre of the toroid.


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The field inside the core has some finite value and at the centre it is zero. So the ration should be infinite but this wrong. I don't see what I have missed. :confused:
 
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The toroid is like a second coil, the wire goes around it once.
 
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mfb said:
The toroid is like a second coil, the wire goes around it once.

I still don't understand what you mean. :confused:
 
mfb means that because the wooden core is very thin, when viewed from the centre, O, of the torus you can take the core as having zero thickness. This means that the toroid can be thought of as a simple loop of wire around O.
 
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haruspex said:
mfb means that because the wooden core is very thin, when viewed from the centre, O, of the torus you can take the core as having zero thickness. This means that the toroid can be thought of as a simple loop of wire around O.

The magnetic field inside the toroid is ##\mu_0NI/(2\pi R)## where ##R## is the radius of toroid.

Magnetic field at center of a loop is ##\mu_0NI/(2R)##. If I find the ratio ##\eta## using these two expressions, it comes out to be independent of N but this is wrong. :confused:
 
For the magnetic field at the center, you do not have N turns.
 
mfb said:
For the magnetic field at the center, you do not have N turns.

Thank you!
 

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