How the find the temp of the middle plate

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The problem involves determining the temperature of a middle plate placed between two metal plates with known temperatures: one at 127 degrees Celsius and the other at 27 degrees Celsius. The context suggests a focus on heat transfer principles.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the middle plate's temperature using an average but realizes it is incorrect. They express confusion about relevant equations and concepts. Other participants suggest using Kelvin and mention the steady state condition, prompting discussions about heat transfer equations and flux.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring different approaches to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the steady state condition and the need for a flux equation, though there is still uncertainty about the definitions and applications of these concepts.

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Participants note a lack of resources, such as the original poster's limited textbook information on flux equations, which may hinder their understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement


We are having two the same metal plates. Plate one is having a temp of 127 degree celsius and plate two is 27 degrees celsius. Then a third plate, the same as the other two, is paced in the middle. What is his temperature?


Homework Equations


Don't really know. Maybe :Q=cA(T14-T24) or E=σT4 or something like those, but really I don't know


The Attempt at a Solution



first thing popping in my mind was: 127+27/2 =77 degrees celsius, which was wrong (it should be 87 degrees celsius). Then I did a lot of random stuff that doesn't really make any sens what so ever (sometimes it helps me to just write down stuff). And now I don't have any idea left anymore. I think I already spent about 1 to 1,5 hours on this one in the course of two days... ^^'


Thanks so much in advance for any help:)
 
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Try Kelvin in the formulae.
 
I did... didn't work out for me...
 
It's a steady state situation so the heat transfer from plate to plate must be equal. Set up the flux equation in Kelvin degrees such that the hot plate radiates to the new plate which then radiates to the low temperature plate. Solve for center plate temperature then convert back to C degrees.
 
Oke this is going to sound stupid but oke: What is a flux equation? My textbook (three sheets of paper home made by the teacher) is not saying anything about them... ^^'
 
Draw a picture and place the hot plate on the left, the plate with the unknown temperature in the middle and the low temperature plate on the right. Let the temperature of the middle plate be Tm. Hot plate is Th, and cold plate plate is Tc. You can write one equation that describes the heat transfer (flux) between middle plate and other two plates. The only unknown will be Tm. Because it's steady state, the heat transfer between plates is the same. The heat that passes from the hot plate to the middle plate equals the heat that passes from the middle plate to the cool plate.

Big hint: It will be a 4th order equation based on your equations above. Q is flux.
 

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