How to Build a Reliable Hydraulic Pressure Resistance Tester for Paper Surfaces?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design and construction of a hydraulic pressure resistance tester specifically for evaluating the resistance of various paper surfaces to hydrostatic pressure. Participants explore methods for building a reliable and cost-effective testing apparatus in a laboratory setting.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to build a customized hydraulic pressure resistance tester to measure the resistance of different paper surfaces to hydraulic pressure, citing the high cost of commercial testers.
  • Another participant suggests using a tall plastic tube filled with water to measure hydrostatic pressure, proposing a method to either use a tall column or a shorter tube with a bike pump to pressurize air above the water column.
  • A participant clarifies their goal of comparing hydrostatic pressure resistance across different paper coatings and seeks confirmation on the proposed testing method involving water columns and paper attachment.
  • Discussion includes the impact of external pressure on superhydrophobic paper surfaces, with a participant expressing interest in determining which paper surface is more resistant to water pressure.
  • Participants discuss the practicalities of the testing setup, including the use of clamps to secure paper and the potential need for a high column to achieve sufficient pressure.
  • Concerns are raised about accurately controlling water pressure, with suggestions for using a pressure gauge and a car foot pump to achieve desired pressure levels.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the basic concept of using a water column to test paper resistance, but there are varying opinions on the specifics of the design and methods for controlling pressure. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal setup and accuracy of pressure measurement.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for practical arrangements to achieve high water pressure, indicating potential limitations in space and equipment. There is also uncertainty regarding the best methods for accurately measuring and controlling the applied pressure.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for researchers or practitioners in materials science, particularly those interested in testing the properties of paper and waterproof materials.

DAVID DIAZ DIAZ
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I need to build a customized hydraulic pressure resistance tester in the lab. The idea is to measure easily but with a good reliability the resistance to hydraulic pressure (either external pressure on the water drops or the pressure caused by a column of water for example) of different paper surfaces. The commercial available testers in the market are very expensive, so any suggestion would be very appreciated.

Thank you very much, DDD.
 
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Do you mean hydrostatic pressure?
That is what column height of water a material can support - as quoted on expensive waterproofs?

Easiest way is probably a very tall plastic tube full of water with a scale on the side.
If you don't have a high enough room then a shorter tube, sealed at the top and a bike pump to presurise the air above the column of water would probably work.
 
Thanks!

Yes, my aim is to improve the hydrostatic pressure resistance of different paper coatings, and I need an easy method to compare this resistance for different paper sheets.

If I understand you well you would attached somehow the paper sheets to the bottom of the column with some container bellow, and then fill the column with water from the top and see when the paper is broken? maybe I missunderstand your design.

Would it be possible you send me by email a quick draw of the system you have in mind? ddiazdiazster@gmail.com
 
The paper surface is superhydrophobic. However, the external pressure on a drop of water (or a column of water) can destroy the superhydrophobic property and then the water will penetrate into the paper. So, what I'm trying to do is to compare different paper surfaces and see which one is more resistan to the water pressure.
 
DAVID DIAZ DIAZ said:
If I understand you well you would attached somehow the paper sheets to the bottom of the column with some container bellow, and then fill the column with water from the top and see when the paper is broken?
Yes, that's the system used to test waterproof clothing material ( I live in Vancouver!), you stretch a piece of the material over the open bottom end of the tube and hold it in place wiht a clamp. You then fill the column until it leaks. Of course you might need a column several metres high so a more practical arrangement is a 1m high column with a sealed top and an air space above the water, you can pump compressed air into the top to increase the effective water pressure.
 
I live in Switzerland! so I guess the waterproof clothing idustry here would love also the idea!

My only doubt is how to accurate control the water pressure. I guess I can find some pump compressed air that give me a lecture of the pressure I'm applying ...

Thanks!
DDD
 
Each extra bar ( atmosphere) of pressure is equal to 9.8m height of water.
You probably only need something like a car foot pump with a pressure guage.
 
Thank you!
DDD
 

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