How to Calculate the Mass of the Left Block in a Pulley System?

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The problem involves a pulley system with a known mass of 100 kg on one side and an unknown mass on the other side. The scenario describes the motion of the 100 kg block being released from a height of 1.0 m and taking 0.90 s to reach the ground, prompting the question of how to calculate the mass of the block on the left.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of acceleration and the forces acting on the blocks. There is an attempt to apply Newton's second law and clarify the tension in the rope. Some participants question the accuracy of the values used for gravitational acceleration and the resulting calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the forces involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the application of Newton's laws, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or solution yet.

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Participants note potential discrepancies in the values used for gravitational acceleration, which may affect the calculations. The setup of the problem and the assumptions made about the system are also under examination.

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Homework Statement



The figure shows a 100 kg block being released from rest from a height of 1.0 m. It then takes 0.90 s to reach the floor. What is the mass of the block on the left?

Illustration shows a pulley connected to the ceiling, with a block of 100 kg on the right, and a block of unknown mass on the left.


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The Attempt at a Solution



I used this to find acceleration of the system:
0 = 1 + (0.5)(a) [(0.90)^2]
a = (-2.5) m/s^2

I drew a diagram. F_G on the bottom, 100 * 9.8 = 980N down.

F = ma so (100)(2.5) = 250, and that must mean that the vector pointing up in my diagram will be 730N (980 - 250 = 750).

So, the 750 comes from the other block. F = ma again, solve for m I get 292 kg, which is not the right answer.

Where did I go wrong?

Thank you
 
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oneamp said:

Homework Statement



The figure shows a 100 kg block being released from rest from a height of 1.0 m. It then takes 0.90 s to reach the floor. What is the mass of the block on the left?

Illustration shows a pulley connected to the ceiling, with a block of 100 kg on the right, and a block of unknown mass on the left.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I used this to find acceleration of the system:
0 = 1 + (0.5)(a) [(0.90)^2]
a = (-2.5) m/s^2

I drew a diagram. F_G on the bottom, 100 * 9.8 = 980N down.

F = ma so (100)(2.5) = 250, and that must mean that the vector pointing up in my diagram will be 730N (980 - 250 = 750).
Up to here is (almost) OK.
You found the tension in the rope. It is not clear if it's 730N or 750N (it depends on taking g=9.8 or 10 m/s^2).


oneamp said:
So, the 750 comes from the other block. F = ma again, solve for m I get 292 kg, which is not the right answer.

Where did I go wrong?

Thank you
Now write Newton's second law for the other block. You know the tension in the rope and the acceleration (same as for the first block).
 
The way I deal with Atwood problems is to first translate the vertical forces to horizontal ones, it makes it easier for me to deal with the forces involved, and gets rid of the confusion of having the pulley. Here's a picture of what I mean. Try applying Newton's Laws to the system on the right.
 

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