How to calculate the spring constant in an elevator fall scenario?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the spring constant in a scenario where an elevator falls from a height and compresses a spring, with the goal of limiting the acceleration to 5g's. The context includes concepts from mechanics and energy conservation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss breaking the problem into parts, focusing first on determining the velocity of the elevator before it impacts the spring, and then analyzing the spring's compression. There are questions about the completeness of the original poster's information and attempts.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem. There is an emphasis on the need for the original poster to clarify their attempts and to provide more details for further assistance.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the original poster may be missing information necessary to fully solve for the spring constant, and there is a suggestion to use kinematic equations and Newton's laws in the analysis.

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Homework Statement

An engineer creates a spring so that when an elevator falls from a height h, the spring constant k, only allows the elevator to reach an acceleration of 5g's. Let M be the total mass of the elevator and passengers. Solve for K

Homework Equations



F=-kx
1/2mv^2 + mgh + 1/2kh^2 = 1/2mv^2 + mgh + 1/2kh^2
v=\sqrt(2gh)

The Attempt at a Solution



I know you have to break it up into two separate equations to find the velocity of the elevator up to where it hits the spring and then to how much the spring compresses but I feel like I'm missing information.
 
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You forgot to post the question as to what you are trying to solve.
 
PhanthomJay said:
You forgot to post the question as to what you are trying to solve.

My bad, I edited it. I have to solve for the spring constant, k.
 
Ok, one way would be as you say, to break the problem into parts: first find the velocity of the elevator just before it hits the spring (the spring does not enter into the equation in this step); then now, as part 2, when it compresses the spring until it comes to a momentary stop, you can calculate the full distance the spring compresses, using the kinematic equations, then you'd need additional equations (like Newton's laws) to solve for k. Please show your attempt at a solution, and someone will help guide you through your method and errors, if any. You must attempt this before we can be of further assistance.
 

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