How to Calculate the Thickness of a Planet's Mantle?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the thickness of a planet's mantle based on given densities and the planet's radius. It involves mathematical reasoning and the application of volume and mass equations related to spherical shells.

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  • Homework-related
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a homework statement with specific values for densities and radius, expressing difficulty due to perceived missing data.
  • Another participant suggests writing the equation for the volume of the mantle as a shell, which depends on the thickness of the mantle and the radius of the core.
  • A further contribution reiterates the need to express the total mass as the sum of the core and mantle masses, while noting the equations for total mass and volume do not provide sufficient information without additional data on the core or mantle.
  • One participant encourages focusing on expressing volumes in terms of the Earth's radius and the core's radius, indicating a relationship between the volumes of the core and mantle.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the approach to use volume and mass equations, but there is no consensus on how to proceed due to the lack of information about the core and mantle volumes or masses.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the sufficiency of the provided data and the relationships between the core and mantle volumes, indicating potential limitations in the equations being used.

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Homework Statement



Given the density of the mantle to be 4700 kg/m^3, the density of the core to be 9700 kg/m^3, the radius of the planet to be 6050 km and the mean density to be 5240 kg/m^3, find the thickness of the mantle.

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I tried using the formula M = D * V and V = (4/3)(pie)(r^3) but there seems to be too much missing data.
 
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You have an equation linking volume (and so mass) of a sphere with radius.
Now write the equation for the volume of the shell (ie mantle) which will depend on the thickness of the mantle ie, on the radius of the core.

Then you have an equation something like
overall average mass = mass of core (r_core) + mass mantle ( r_core )
 
mgb_phys said:
You have an equation linking volume (and so mass) of a sphere with radius.
Now write the equation for the volume of the shell (ie mantle) which will depend on the thickness of the mantle ie, on the radius of the core.

Then you have an equation something like
overall average mass = mass of core (r_core) + mass mantle ( r_core )

So I end up having three equations...
1) Mtotal = Vtotal * Dtotal
2) Mcore = Vcore * Dcore
3) Mmantle = Vmantle * Dmantle

1) I have the V because I am given the radius and can also figure out the M because I am given the D.
2 & 3) I only have both D's and nothing else.

I also know that: 4) Mtotal = Mcore + Mmantle
Similarly, I know that: 5) Vtotal = Vcore + Vmantle

Equations (4) and (5) seems useless as I don't have information about the mass of either the mantle or the core and don't have information about the volume of the core or mantle.

Is there some way I can substitute equations... or am I even going about it the right way?
 
You are on the right path,
Write the volumes in terms of radius of Earth and radius of Core, note the volume of core and mantle are related.
Then you can write equation 4 in terms of this core radius.
 

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