How to Calculate Thin Plate Deflection for a Point Load at the Center?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the deflection of a clamped circular thin plate subjected to a point load at its center. Participants explore theoretical approaches and formulas to ensure accuracy in finite element analysis (FEA) modeling, particularly focusing on the differences between point loads and distributed loads.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a formula for deflection due to a point load but encounters difficulty when applying it at the center of the plate, where the radius is zero.
  • Another participant warns that using concentrated analytic loadings can lead to erroneously high stress values and suggests using an equivalent radius to calculate finite maximum stresses from a nominal point loading.
  • The equivalent radius formula is provided, which allows for the calculation of stresses and deflections for concentrated loads by replacing the actual radius with an equivalent one based on plate thickness.
  • A specific maximum deflection formula is shared for uniform loading over a small central circular area, indicating that the participant believes the original poster's case aligns with this scenario.
  • A later reply expresses gratitude for the assistance received, indicating that the provided information resolved their issue.
  • Another participant requests the source of the original deflection formula for further analysis on microplates, noting that they are only finding information related to nodal frequencies.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach for calculating deflection under a point load, with some advocating for the use of equivalent radii while others seek clarification on the original formula. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal method for this specific scenario.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the potential inaccuracy of using concentrated load formulas at very small radii and the dependence on the definitions of equivalent radius and boundary conditions. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps necessary to apply the formulas correctly.

Who May Find This Useful

Researchers and engineers involved in FEA modeling of thin plates, particularly those working with point loads and interested in the theoretical underpinnings of deflection calculations.

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Hi. I have been doing some FEA modelling with solid works and am trying to calculate my deflection for a point load at the centre of a clamped periphery (not simply supported) circular thin plate. I need to calculate the theoretical values to make sure that my FEA is correct

The formula I have found is this :

w=(-W/16pieD)*(a^2-r^2*(1+2*ln(a/r)))
for r not = to 0

w= deflection
W= load in N
a= fixed max radius (m)
r = variable radius (m)

D=flexual rigidity = Eh^3/(1-v^2)
E=Young's modulus (Pa)
h=plate thickness (m)
v=poissons ratio

When I plug my relevant data into the formula I get stuck because i am using a point load at the centre...therefore my r=0...I cannot find the formula for when the load is at the centre. Can anyone please help?

I have been having no trouble doing this with a distruited load (pressure) but it's the point load that I have been having trouble with.

Thanks in advance.
 
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You will get a problem using concentrated analytic loadings with erroneously high answers. Roark says in Chapter 11: Flat Plates, Section 1: Common Case:

Concentrated Loading
It will be noted that all formulas for maximum stress due to a load applied over a small area give very high values when the radius of the loaded area approaches zero. Analysis by a more precise method (Ref 12) shows that the actual maximum stress produced by a load concentrated on a very small area of radius r_0 can be found by replacing the actual r_0 by a so-called equivalent radius r'_0, which depends largely upon the thickness of the plate t and to a lesser degree on its least transverse dimension. Holl (Ref. 13) shows how r'_0 varies with the width of a flat plate. Westergaard (Ref. 14) gives an approximate expression for this equivalent radius:

r'_0 = \sqrt{ 1.6 r^2_0 + t^2} - 0.675t

This formula which applies to a plate of any form, may be used for all values of r_0 less than 0.5t; for larger values the actual r_0 may be used.

Use of the equivalent radius makes possible the calculation of the finite maximum stresses produced by a (nominal) point loading whereas the ordinary forumula would indicate that these stresses were infinite.

So, the application of a concentrated loading physically is erroneous. You can try to apply the loading in your FEA as a concentrated surface loading over a finite area. Then use the formula given to get an equivalent radius, thereby which you can get the stresses and deflections.

For uniform loading over a very small central circular area of radius r0, those are Roark cases 16 and 17 depending on the boundary conditions. I can supply those if you would like. I think you have case 17 though (edges fixed rather than simply supported). In that case, the maximum deflection at r=0 is:

y_{max} = \frac{ -W a^2}{16 \pi D}

Where:

W = q \pi r^2_0

q being the "pressure", and a being the radius of the flat plate.
 
thanks for that minger. That solves my problem. :)
 
Glad I could help.
 
Damo03,

Where did you find that formula you first were trying? Could you give me a reference, as I am doing analysis on a microplate and am only finding things for calculating the nodal frequencies.

That could really be useful, although seems to only give the deflection for one state.
 

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