Calculating Deflections of I-Beams with Varying Loads and Supports

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The discussion focuses on calculating the vertical deflection of I-Beams under varying loads and support conditions. Participants explore the necessary formulas and considerations for accurate calculations, including safety concerns and educational background relevant to the topic.

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  • One participant seeks guidance on the appropriate formula for calculating vertical deflection of I-Beams under specific loading conditions.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need to consider web buckling and shear in addition to bending, indicating that there is no single formula applicable to all scenarios.
  • A suggestion is made to refer to the Steel Construction Manual by AISC for a comprehensive understanding of the topic.
  • Safety concerns are raised regarding the testing of the beam setup, highlighting the potential dangers of failure during load testing.
  • Participants inquire about the educational background of the original poster to assess their preparedness for making such calculations.
  • Links to external resources summarizing beam formulas are shared for further reference.

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Participants express differing views on the complexity of the calculations required, with some suggesting that a solid understanding of mechanics is necessary while others question the original poster's familiarity with the topic. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to calculating deflections.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of considering various factors such as web buckling and shear, which may complicate the calculations. There is also an acknowledgment of the need for a solid educational foundation in mechanics to perform these calculations accurately.

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This discussion may be useful for engineering students, professionals in structural engineering, and those interested in the mechanics of materials and beam deflection calculations.

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My objective is to be able to calculate only vertical deflection of I-Beams (i.e. knowing which formula to use).

Constants:
Using a pair of I-Beams running parallel to each other with a single load being applied from directly above. The load sits on a steel plate across both Beams that are 4" apart. The Beams are pinned at each end with the single load centered half way (i.e. 12' beams with load applied at 6').
Variables:
The only two shapes of beams being used are S, and occasionally W. The most popular models being S10x35, S15x50, S18x70, and possibly a W12x40.
Beams will have a minimum rating of 50ksi (A992 or A572)
Beam lengths can vary from 8' long to 20'
Total loads vary from 120k to 260k (for the two beams to carry).

Thank you!

 

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Get a copy of Steel Construction Manual, by AISC. You need a solid background in strength of materials in order to understand it.

For the loading you show, you need to check for web buckling and shear in addition to bending. There is no one single simple formula. You need to do it right, or find somebody who knows how to do it right.

And do not stand near that setup when testing. If something let's loose, bad things can happen very fast.
 
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EDIT -- Thread re-opened after a Mentor discussion about safety issues.

@PTW -- your Profile page shows that you have a BSME and are working on your MSME. Can you say what courses you have taken that should help you to make this kind of calculation? Thanks. :smile:

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You may want to look at this summary too.

http://ruina.mae.cornell.edu/Courses/ME4735-2012/Rand4770Vibrations/BeamFormulas.pdf
 
Dale said:
You may want to look at this summary too.

http://ruina.mae.cornell.edu/Courses/ME4735-2012/Rand4770Vibrations/BeamFormulas.pdf
Thank you, Dale.
 
@PTW If you have completed a BSME as Berkeman indicates, surely you took a mechanics of materials course (not to mention a machine design course) in which you would have learned how to calculate the deflections of a uniform beam on simple supports. Is there something unusual about this case?
 
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