How to Calculate V3 or Q3 in a Capacitance Network?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a capacitance network involving three conductors and the relationships between their charges and voltages. The original poster seeks to determine the voltage of conductor 3 or its corresponding charge, given certain known values and equations related to the capacitance matrix.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are examining the feasibility of calculating the unknown voltages based on the provided equations and known values. Some question whether the information given is sufficient to solve for the unknowns, while others explore the implications of having only one known voltage difference.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants expressing differing views on the sufficiency of the provided information. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for additional independent values to solve the problem, but no consensus has been reached on the possibility of calculating the unknowns with the current data.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of having six unknowns and only four equations, which raises questions about the completeness of the problem setup. The original poster also refers to an equivalent circuit, suggesting that there may be additional considerations or assumptions at play.

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Homework Statement



A capacitance matrix represents the charge coupling within a group of conductors — that is, the relationship between charges and voltages for the conductors. Given the three conductors shown in the following link, with the outside boundary taken as a reference,

http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af335/hectoryx/capacitancenetwork.jpg


Homework Equations



the net charge on each object will be:

[tex]$\begin{array}{l}<br /> {Q_1} = {C_{10}}{V_1} + {C_{12}}({V_1} - {V_2}) + {C_{13}}({V_1} - {V_3}) \\ <br /> {Q_2} = {C_{20}}{V_2} + {C_{12}}({V_2} - {V_1}) + {C_{23}}({V_2} - {V_3}) \\ <br /> {Q_3} = {C_{30}}{V_3} + {C_{13}}({V_3} - {V_1}) + {C_{23}}({V_3} - {V_2}) \\ <br /> \end{array}$[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution




The problem is, if all of the capacitances are already known, and [tex]{V_1} - {V_2} = U[/tex] is also known, but [tex]{V_1}[/tex] and [tex]{V_2}[/tex] is not known.

then how to calculate [tex]{V_3}[/tex] or [tex]{Q_3}[/tex]?

Thanks in advance.

Regards

Hector
 
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I don't believe that it is possible. You have six unknowns, but only four equations. Do you know any other values besides just V1-V2? Two more independent values should do it.
 
Thanks for your reply.

However, in the equivalent circuit of the capacitor network, the voltage of conductor 3 to the reference ground can be caculated...so...
 
hectoryx said:
... in the equivalent circuit of the capacitor network, the voltage of conductor 3 to the reference ground can be caculated ...
Are you suggesting that this is possible if you only know V1-V2? I don't believe so. If you simply mean that, yes, there is this additional input information, then the solution is trivial: V3=V3, right? I must not be understanding your problem.
 

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