How to check if stellar/galactic spectrum extraction went well?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around evaluating the quality of stellar and galactic spectrum extractions performed using IRAF. Participants explore methods for assessing extraction and calibration accuracy, including comparisons to established data and statistical measures.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions what constitutes "well" in the context of spectrum extraction, suggesting that validity may depend on the comparison of observed versus predicted measurements within a model.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of comparing automated extraction results to manual extractions on both random samples and focused subsets to assess reliability.
  • A different participant proposes comparing extracted spectra to those of well-studied stars and referencing published results, noting that the approach may vary based on the type of spectrograph and desired output.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential misapplication of statistical methods, particularly Bayesian statistics, in evaluating data credibility.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the criteria for determining the quality of spectrum extractions, with no consensus reached on a definitive method or standard for evaluation.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on specific definitions of "well" and the variability in approaches based on the type of spectrograph and calibration methods used.

Who May Find This Useful

Researchers and practitioners involved in astronomical spectroscopy, particularly those using IRAF for data extraction and calibration.

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I've been doing some spectrum extractions in IRAF, stellar and galactic, and I was wondering if anyone here had any ideas on how to tell if the extraction/calibration/etc went well? I have a bunch of finished projects but I'm not sure about how to tell if they're any good or not. Let me know if anyone has any ideas. I could also post some images of the spectra themselves if that might help.
 
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What constitutes "well'? Studies usually apply a standard of observed vs predicted measurement of some or another 'key' variables in a model of interest. If the model produces predictions that match observation to a particular level of statistical confidence, the model is deemed valid to that level of confidence. If not, it is considered either incomplete or just plain wrong. Of course, one can make an entire career [and living] out of trumpeting statistically anomalous data as 'proof' of some hare-brained idea. This forms the basis for using Bayesian statistics as a measure of credibility. Then again, it is possible to misapply Bayesian statistics: giving rise to the adage "figures don't lie, but, liars figure."
 
SMBH said:
I've been doing some spectrum extractions in IRAF, stellar and galactic, and I was wondering if anyone here had any ideas on how to tell if the extraction/calibration/etc went well? I have a bunch of finished projects but I'm not sure about how to tell if they're any good or not. Let me know if anyone has any ideas. I could also post some images of the spectra themselves if that might help.
I'm not sure what you accept a priori as "well". For instance, do you accept manual extraction, but not necessarily anything automated (until proven reliable)? In that case, have you compared your automated results to a manual extraction -
  1. on some small but very random sample on the statistical universe of your data; and
  2. on some small, very well focused subset that you feel you understand deeply -- something of a calibration set?
If so, what did the comparisons show?
 
I assume your concern is about how well you have done the extraction, wavelength calibration and instrument correction. In that case I think the best approach is to obtain spectra of well studied stars and compare your results with published results. The details will depend on what type of spectrograph you are using and the type of result you are aiming for, flux calibrated or normalised for example.I think IRAF has some standard star data somewhere that could use.

Regards Andrew
 

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