How to Compute an Autocorrelation Integral for Gaussian Pulses?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around computing an autocorrelation integral for two Gaussian pulses separated by a fixed distance. Participants explore mathematical approaches to derive the autocorrelation over space, including considerations of Fourier transforms and complex analysis.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines the problem of computing the autocorrelation integral and expresses a desire for ideas or directions rather than a complete solution.
  • Another participant suggests reducing the problem to simpler integrals of specific forms, indicating potential methods for solving those integrals.
  • A different participant acknowledges the suggested approach but notes the potential complexity and time required to solve the integrals, comparing real-world problems to classroom scenarios.
  • One participant shares their attempt at solving the integral the traditional way, noting that while the results were better than expected, they believe that \(\tau\) cannot be solved for explicitly.
  • The same participant expresses uncertainty about the effectiveness of Fourier transforms for this problem, suggesting it may lead to multi-valued answers but is unsure how to proceed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to solve the autocorrelation integral, with multiple competing methods and perspectives presented throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the feasibility of certain mathematical techniques, such as complex contour integrals and Fourier transforms, and acknowledge the complexity of the integrals involved.

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Hi guys,

Long story short, I need to compute an autocorrelation integral. Here's the problem:

There are two arbitrary gaussian pulses, one following the other by a fixed distance. By computing the autocorrelation over space(not time) and taking the derivative of the space-shift autocorrelation and setting it equal to zero, important information hopefully could be obtained.

The mathematics of this would be as followed:
\frac{\partial}{\partial\tau}\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}(Ae^{-a(x-c)^2}+Be^{-b(x-d)^2})(Ae^{-a(x-c-\tau)^2}+Be^{-b(x-d-\tau)^2})dx=0
\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}(Ae^{-a(x-c)^2}+Be^{-b(x-d)^2})(a(x-c-\tau)Ae^{-a(x-c-\tau)^2}+b(x-d-\tau)Be^{-b(x-d-\tau)^2})dx=0

I am NOT asking anyone to do this for me - I'll do it myself but I just need some ideas or directions on how to go about it.
I have experience in Fourier transforms, complex analysis and calculus of course. I've considered doing a complex contour integral but I'm not sure how reasonable that is after seeing how big of a pain the normal gaussian contour integral is. I've considered Fourier transforms a little - I didn't immediately see much help due to the Fourier transform of a gaussian just being another gaussian. I've thought about parametrization or even centering the integral about the center of the two gaussians but I don't know where to start I guess.

It's clearly a bound integral but is it just too impossibly hard to try?
 
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You can reduce the problem to several integrals of the types ##\int dx e^{-(x+d)^2 - (x-d)^2}##, ##\int dx x e^{-(x+d)^2 - (x-d)^2}## and maybe something I missed and look for solution methods for those integrals.
 
Yes, that's definitely one way to do it. However, this may take a couple dozen sheets of paper and a few hours considering the factoring. I guess after seeing so many tricks in math classes I just assumed there might be a quick way around this... But real world problems versus classroom problems aren't a fair comparison I suppose.
 
Well I tried it the old fashion way and it turned out better than I thought - but I don't think \tau can be solved for explicitly.

\frac{-A^{2}}{2\sqrt{2a}}e^{\frac{-a\tau^{2}}{2}}+\frac{-B^{2}}{2\sqrt{2b}}e^{\frac{-b\tau^{2}}{2}} = \frac{2ABe^{\frac{-ab(j(j-2k)+k^{2})}{a+b}}}{(a+b)\sqrt{a+b}}e^{\frac{-ab\tau^{2}}{a+b}}(\tau cosh(\frac{2ab\tau(j-k)}{a+b})-(j-k)sinh(\frac{2ab\tau(j-k)}{a+b}))

Any other ideas? I'm not an expert on Fourier transforms but I'm beginning to think that's the only way because it should be a multi-valued answer - just not sure how to approach it.
 
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