How to Construct a Variable-Output Current Supply Using Op-Amps?

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The discussion revolves around the construction of a variable-output current supply using operational amplifiers (op-amps). Participants explore the feasibility of creating such a circuit, share resources, and discuss different configurations and components that could be utilized.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the possibility of constructing a variable-output current supply using op-amps.
  • Another suggests searching for "current source" instead of "current supply" and provides links to relevant articles, including one by Bob Pease.
  • A participant expresses confusion about finding variable current sources, noting that most resources seem to focus on constant current sources.
  • There is a discussion about whether "variable" refers to voltage-controlled current sources, with suggestions to use potentiometers or digital potentiometers for control.
  • One participant proposes using a potentiometer to adjust the current setting and mentions the potential use of a MOSFET as a voltage-controlled resistance, while noting possible nonlinearities.
  • Participants engage in a mathematical discussion regarding the current equation, with one questioning the inclusion of an alpha factor and others providing clarification on its significance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to creating a variable-output current supply. There are multiple competing views regarding the use of components and configurations, particularly concerning the definitions of variable current sources.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions regarding the definitions of variable and constant current sources remain unresolved. The discussion includes references to specific circuit configurations and equations, but the mathematical steps and implications are not fully clarified.

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guys, i need some help...

is it possible to construct a variable-output current supply using op-amp(s)?

if so, can anyone help me about how to construct one?

thanks :)
 
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There are tons of circuits on the web, search for current source, not supply.

Here are a few schematics.. You can beef up the current with a transistor. Also check out Bob Pease article on current sources.

http://www.edn.com/contents/images/6309110f1.pdf

http://electronicdesign.com/Articles/ArticleID/18966/18966.html <Bob Pease article
 
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thanks very much!

so that's why, i used "supply" for searching... should have used "source"...

:)
 
oh, and one more thing..

how about a variable op-amp current source?

when i search the web i only find constant current sources using op-amps...

or is there any of the kind?

sorry for the "newbie-ness" of mine...

:)
 
by "variable", do you mean voltage-controlled? if no, your current source is determined by the component values. those can be changed.
 
As rjb says, you could use a potentiometer for the current setting control. Or, if you want it to be voltage controlled (like from a microcontroller), you could use a "digital potentiometer" device, or use a MOSFET as a voltage controlled resistance (but there are nonlinearities in doing this that need to be accounted for).

Digital pots and uCs: http://www.maxim-ic.com/appnotes.cfm/an_pk/408


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Zapitgood said:
http://electronicdesign.com/Articles/ArticleID/18966/18966.html <Bob Pease article

Looking at Fig. 1a of that article:
http://electronicdesign.com/files/29/18966/fig_01a.gif

Shouldn't the current be

[tex] I = \alpha \ (V_s - V_{in}) \ / \ R[/tex]

?

Then to get a variable current, you could use a potentiometer for the resistor appearing between the words "Current" and "V_in".
 
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Redbelly98 said:
Looking at Fig. 1a of that article:
http://electronicdesign.com/files/29/18966/fig_01a.gif

Shouldn't the current be

[tex] I = \alpha \ (V_s - V_{in}) \ / \ R[/tex]

?

Then to get a variable current, you could use a potentiometer for the resistor appearing between the words "Current" and "V_in".

Think the current I is just [tex]I = \frac{ (V_s - V_{in}) }{ R }[/tex]

Don't see where alpha would enter in...
 
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berkeman said:
Don't see where alpha would enter in...

I'm guessing alpha accounts for the difference in collector and emitter currents for the transistor, and is very close to 1. So your equation would work just fine too.
 
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Redbelly98 said:
I'm guessing alpha accounts for the difference in collector and emitter currents for the transistor, and is very close to 1. So your equation would work just fine too.

Oh, I see the alpha factor now. Thanks Redbelly.
 
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thanks guys,

this forum works like magic... well, strictly-physics speaking, magic don't exist... but not in this case...

:)
 

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