How to deduce the solution of normal modes of a cavity?

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The discussion revolves around deducing the solution for normal modes of a cavity as presented in the book "Quantum Optics" by Scully and Zubairy. The original poster references a specific equation (1.1.5) that is introduced without a derivation, leading to questions about the coefficients involved in the solution.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand the form of the solution involving sine functions and the coefficients A and q. Some participants suggest exploiting the orthogonality of the modes and relate the cavity modes to mechanical simple harmonic motion (SHM) oscillators. There are questions about the units of the coefficients and their physical significance.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring various interpretations of the coefficients and their roles in the equation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the coefficients and the physical context of the problem, particularly in relation to energy expressions. However, there is no explicit consensus on the determination of the coefficients.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes considerations about the units of the coefficients and their implications for the physical interpretation of the cavity modes. The original poster notes that the derivation does not specify the coefficient A, indicating a potential gap in the information provided.

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Homework Statement


In the book "Quantum Optics" written by Scully and Zubairy, there is an equation (1.1.5). The equation is presented directly and not explained how to be deduced. The content is as follows.

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I know the solution should have the form of ##Sin(kx)##, where ##k=\frac{j\pi}{L},j=1,2,3,...## . But I don't know how to get the coefficients ##A## and ##q##.
 
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Exploit orthogonality of the modes and your knowledge of the physics being described.
 
The coefficient of ##\sin(k_jz)## in (1.1.5) is written as ##A_j q_j## just for convenience in order to relate the cavity modes to mechanical SHM oscillators (i.e., point masses oscillating in SHM). The analogous point mass ##m_j## has displacement ##q_j## , where ##q_j## has units of distance. But the left side of equation 1.1.5 has units of electric field. Thus, one reason for the factor ##A_j## is to make the units come out right. ##A_j## must have units of electric field / distance. You should check that this is, in fact, the case.

The particular form chosen for ##A_j## leads to a nice expression for the energy of the cavity modes as given in 1.1.9 on page 4. See
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0521435951/?tag=pfamazon01-20
The total energy of the cavity radiation is expressed as the sum of the energies of a system of independent mechanical oscillators.
 
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TSny said:
The coefficient of ##\sin(k_jz)## in (1.1.5) is written as ##A_j q_j## just for convenience in order to relate the cavity modes to mechanical SHM oscillators (i.e., point masses oscillating in SHM). The analogous point mass ##m_j## has displacement ##q_j## , where ##q_j## has units of distance. But the left side of equation 1.1.5 has units of electric field. Thus, one reason for the factor ##A_j## is to make the units come out right. ##A_j## must have units of electric field / distance. You should check that this is, in fact, the case.

The particular form chosen for ##A_j## leads to a nice expression for the energy of the cavity modes as given in 1.1.9 on page 4. See
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0521435951/?tag=pfamazon01-20
The total energy of the cavity radiation is expressed as the sum of the energies of a system of independent mechanical oscillators.
I maybe have understood it. For a SHM oscillator, its position is given by $$x(t)=x_{m}Sin(kt),$$ where ##x_{m}## is the amplitude of the oscillation, and ##k## is the natural oscillating frequency.For the cavity modes, it is actually a wave describing by $$x(z,t)=x(t)Sin(kz),$$ where ##x(t)## is the position at ##t## and stands for the amplitude of the wave and in some way the energy. There are many possible normal waves (or modes) with different amplitude (i.e. ##x(t)##) and wave numbers (i.e. ##k##) for a universal electromagnetic wave, so it should be a superposition of all of possible normal wave. It follows that $$x(z,t)=\underset{j}{\sum A_{j}}x_{j}(t)Sin(k_{j}z),$$ where ##A_{j}## is the normalization coefficient. Substituting ##x(z,t)## and ##x_{j}(t)## respectively with ##E(z,t)## and ##q_{j}(t)##, we get $$E(z,t)=\underset{j}{\sum A_{j}}q_{j}(t)Sin(k_{j}z).$$ This is Eq. (1.1.5). QED
However, the coefficient ##A_{j}## is not determined in the derivation above. Maybe it is like TSny said that for convenience to leads to a nice expression for the energy of the cavity modes as given in Eq. (1.1.9): $$H=\frac{1}{2}\underset{j}{\sum}(mv_{j}^{2}q_{j}^{2}+m_{j}\dot{q}_{j}^{2}).$$
 

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