How to define an 'infinite dimensional integral'

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The discussion revolves around the definition of integration in infinite dimensional spaces, exploring various approaches and challenges associated with this concept. Participants consider the implications of topology and propose methods for defining integrals and derivatives in such contexts.

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  • One participant suggests defining an infinite dimensional integral using a family of trial functions, specifically step functions, and mentions the need for an axiomatic approach to integration.
  • Another participant raises a concern about the necessity of specifying the topology before defining integrals or derivatives in infinite dimensions, noting that different metrics can lead to different topologies.
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  • Discussion includes the definition of the infinite dimensional derivative (functional derivative) and presents two formulations, questioning the possibility of defining integrals similarly through summation as epsilon approaches zero.

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Participants express differing views on the feasibility and methodology of defining integrals in infinite dimensional spaces, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without consensus.

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Participants note the importance of topology in defining integrals and derivatives, highlighting that assumptions about metrics may not hold in infinite dimensions. There is also mention of potential limitations in accessing relevant literature.

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Hello, my question is how could we define integration on infinite dimensional spaces?, my idea is, let be the multiple integral.

[tex]\int_{V}dVf(X)[/tex] where [tex]X=(x_1 ,x_2 , x_3 ,...,x_n )[/tex]

then i define a family of trial functions, in my case they are just 'step functions' so [tex]H(X)=H(x_1) H(x_2 ) H(x_3 )...H(x_n)[/tex] and define a some kind of axiomatic integral for htem (i don't know how unfortunately) then i try to apply integration by parts so integral hold to and make n -> infinite so we define an infinite dimensional integral.

By the way, is there an analogue to Euler-Mc Laurin sum formula for infinite dimensional spaces?
 
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One problem you will have is that the various plausible "metrics", which give exactly the same topology in finite dimensions and so are equivalent, give different topologies in infinite dimensional space. That is, before you can define integrals or derivatives in infinite dimensions, you will need to specify the topology.

You might want to look at this
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=528446
or this
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1979PhLA...73..287B
 
Unfortunately the second article is not free, unless you have a paid subscription to Elsevier.

Daniel.
 
But the infinite dimensional derivative (functional derivative) can be defined for a functional in 2 ways:

[tex]\frac{F[\phi +\epsilon \delta (x-y)]-F[\phi]}{\epsilon}[/tex] or

[tex]\frac{dF[\phi +\epsilon (x-y)]}{d\epsilon}[/tex]

for epsilon tending to 0, and it yields to Euler-Lagrange equation, the question is why can't we define the integral by means perhaps of the sum, with epsilon tending to 0 in the form?

[tex]\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}\epsilon F[\phi +n\epsilon \delta (x-y)][/tex] or if we denote the functional derivative operator [tex]\delta[/tex] then its inverse is just the functional integral operator .
 
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