How to Define Differential Length Vectors

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The discussion focuses on defining differential length vectors in the context of the equation x² + y² = a². The key takeaway is the transformation of the tangent vector equation, where dy is substituted with dy = (-2x/y)dx, leading to the final expression for the differential length vector: 𝑑𝑙 = dx𝑒̂𝑥 - (2x/y)dx𝑒̂𝑦. This substitution clarifies the absence of a separate dy term in the final vector representation. Participants confirm the correctness of this approach.

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Hello, I am looking at some notes and cannot understand the following example:


Suppose x2 + y2 = a2
Note: (Optional) use the equation of the curve to convert all vector components to the same differential, e.g.
[tex]\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{1}{2}\frac{-4x}{\sqrt{a^2-x^2}} \Rightarrow dy = \frac{-2x}{y}dx \Rightarrow \vec{dl} = dx\hat{x} - \frac{2x}{y}dx\hat{y}[/tex]

Question: I don't understand the second arrow which leads to the following conclusion:
[tex]\vec{dl} = dx\hat{x} - \frac{2x}{y}dx\hat{y}[/tex]
Why wouldn't there be a dy?

Thanks,

JL
 
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jeff1evesque said:
Hello, I am looking at some notes and cannot understand the following example:


Suppose x2 + y2 = a2
Note: (Optional) use the equation of the curve to convert all vector components to the same differential, e.g.
[tex]\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{1}{2}\frac{-4x}{\sqrt{a^2-x^2}} \Rightarrow dy = \frac{-2x}{y}dx \Rightarrow \vec{dl} = dx\hat{x} - \frac{2x}{y}dx\hat{y}[/tex]

Question: I don't understand the second arrow which leads to the following conclusion:
[tex]\vec{dl} = dx\hat{x} - \frac{2x}{y}dx\hat{y}[/tex]
Why wouldn't there be a dy?

Thanks,

JL
There is! That is simply the standard equation for a tangent vector,
[tex]\vec{dl}= dx\hat{x}+ dy\hat{y}[/tex]
with "dy" replaced using the equation just before the second arrow:
[tex]dy= \frac{-2x}{y}dx[/tex]

[tex]\vec{dl}= dx\hat{x}+ dy\hat{y}= dx\hat{x}- \frac{2x}{y}dx\hat{y}[/tex].
 
That's great, thanks a lot :smile:.


Jeffrey

HallsofIvy said:
There is! That is simply the standard equation for a tangent vector,
[tex]\vec{dl}= dx\hat{x}+ dy\hat{y}[/tex]
with "dy" replaced using the equation just before the second arrow:
[tex]dy= \frac{-2x}{y}dx[/tex]

[tex]\vec{dl}= dx\hat{x}+ dy\hat{y}= dx\hat{x}- \frac{2x}{y}dx\hat{y}[/tex].
 

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